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DRAVID FAN
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Topic: Best Batsman of 2006 Posted: 03 December 2006 at 1:18am |
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy
You are foolish,,, read my post , make an UNBIAS judgement. Your judgement is as subjective as it comes as you have indicated you do not like Ponting, you should not have included it otherwise it proves your bias. |
How is it bias. I am Indian and I hate all Pakistani, Sri Lankan players. Not because of political reasons, but I always find their games boring if they don't play India and i find watching those players boring too. Of you want a bias jusgement then here goes. I think the best player of the year is Dravid. I felt that Yousuf was better, so I said it.
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Posted: 03 December 2006 at 1:26am |
Originally posted by wiseguy
Infact I would always say for the last decade ausie batsmen have been at an advantage to have not faced the best bowling and that should be considered too!
It just gives them an open field to score runs, ponting , hussey, gilchrist, hayden have never faced the oppening spell of macgrath and lee, and never faced warne on a 4th day track so they have been lucky to be a part of ausie team also, will some one consider that too! |
They have faced the opening spell of Ntini and Pollock which is the equal of Mcgrath and Lee. One with a lot of pace and the other with a lot of accuracy.
I remember that you said that sometimes MiNiWaRnEy says rubbish comments by comparing pitches. I agree to the part that he sometimes says rubbish things.
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Posted: 03 December 2006 at 3:26am |
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Originally posted by wiseguy
Infact I would always say for the last decade ausie batsmen have been at an advantage to have not faced the best bowling and that should be considered too!
It just gives them an open field to score runs, ponting , hussey, gilchrist, hayden have never faced the oppening spell of macgrath and lee, and never faced warne on a 4th day track so they have been lucky to be a part of ausie team also, will some one consider that too! |
They have faced the opening spell of Ntini and Pollock which is the equal of Mcgrath and Lee. One with a lot of pace and the other with a lot of accuracy.
I remember that you said that sometimes MiNiWaRnEy says rubbish comments by comparing pitches. I agree to the part that he sometimes says rubbish things.
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Posted: 03 December 2006 at 4:20am |
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy
You are foolish,,, read my post , make an UNBIAS judgement. Your judgement is as subjective as it comes as you have indicated you do not like Ponting, you should not have included it otherwise it proves your bias. |
How is it bias. I am Indian and I hate all Pakistani, Sri Lankan players. Not because of political reasons, but I always find their games boring if they don't play India and i find watching those players boring too. Of you want a bias jusgement then here goes. I think the best player of the year is Dravid. I felt that Yousuf was better, so I said it. |
"How is it bias. I am Indian and I hate all Pakistani, Sri Lankan players"
maybe you need to look up the word bias df
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MiNiWaRnEy
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Posted: 03 December 2006 at 5:51am |
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That is infact as bias as it gets.
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Posted: 03 December 2006 at 5:54am |
| Originally posted by wiseguy
For centuries ausies and englishmen struggled on the same batting tracks of india and Pakistan why? It needs a lot of skill to play quality spin bowling and only after warne phenomenon happened to them they have started playing batter on those batting paradises!
You can have a lot many bowling machines in your academies and learn to play pace and swing but where will you get a machine to bowl the variety of a spinner, so just get out of your paronia that runs scored in australian tracks are better than the ones scored in pakistan or india, get a life please!  [/QUOTE
It hasn't anything to do with Warne. Before the 2000s there were home umpires, and not always neutral umpires... THAT IS ONE BIG FACTOR to why players failed there.
And secondly to Dravid Fan. You criticise my comments, I probably know about 100000000 times more about cricket than you do , so if I were you I would keep quiet. |
It hasn't anything to do with Warne. Before the 2000s there were home umpires, and not always neutral umpires... THAT IS ONE BIG FACTOR to why players failed there.
And secondly to Dravid Fan. You criticise my comments, I probably know about 100000000 times more about cricket than you do , so if I were you I would keep quiet.
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Posted: 03 December 2006 at 2:24pm |
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But what ever said Yusuf deserves to be the best batsman this year because he was scoring that much under pressure. But to be counted as a legend he should prove against AUS, SAF and SL (mainly Murali). Yusuf averages blow 30 gainst all these three teams.
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Posted: 03 December 2006 at 6:01pm |
Originally posted by Wal Bada
Yusuf averages blow 30 gainst all these three teams. |
Wow! Me never know that! Well, you learn something everyday don't we. 
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Posted: 04 December 2006 at 9:51am |
Unfortunately the thread is related to 2006 and yousuf never faced any of these three in his phenomenal year with bat (probably lucky for those teams I guess!) so is the case with pontting he has not faced a few this year, so probably thinking that he should score more against the three teams would be considered when his carreer is considered. One thing for sure he never played an innings against Bang or Zim for sure!
One thing I want to mantain that scoring runs consistantly is not a mean feat, we had very very capable batsmen, playing against very poor bowling sides but the highest runs record remained intact for 30 years , so yousuf did a great job and I believe the big names like tandolkar, ponting, lara and inzi will only dream to achieve that, and the fans of these guys will try to negatively analyse yousaf's feat one way or another.
Pretty soon we will hear that a 50 scored in australia or england be considered a century where as a 200 hundred in india, pakistan and bangladesh should be equal to 50! what duoble standards my word!
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so far so good!
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Posted: 04 December 2006 at 9:55am |
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Infact a four against murali or kumble be considered as 1 run, but a single against macgrath, lee , ntinni or pollock be a 4 and two runs be a sixer may be! we wont be able to draw levels with warne, may be a single against warne in australia be a sixer but 3 runs in india against warne be a 4. Any indian scoring 50 against warne should be 40 runs, but an englishmen scoring the same be 70 Odd runs! My word!
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so far so good!
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Posted: 04 December 2006 at 11:28am |
Originally posted by Wal Bada
But what ever said Yusuf deserves to be the best batsman this year because he was scoring that much under pressure. But to be counted as a legend he should prove against AUS, SAF and SL (mainly Murali). Yusuf averages blow 30 gainst all these three teams. |
Ponting got a gutsy 142, under a heap of pressure..
Well done to him, I would say that both Youhana and Ponting are on par this year. it is hard to differentiate them.. and it is unfair too.
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Posted: 04 December 2006 at 8:41pm |
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy
Originally posted by wiseguy
For centuries ausies and englishmen struggled on the same batting tracks of india and Pakistan why? It needs a lot of skill to play quality spin bowling and only after warne phenomenon happened to them they have started playing batter on those batting paradises!
You can have a lot many bowling machines in your academies and learn to play pace and swing but where will you get a machine to bowl the variety of a spinner, so just get out of your paronia that runs scored in australian tracks are better than the ones scored in pakistan or india, get a life please |
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Posted: 04 December 2006 at 8:41pm |
Originally posted by MiNiWaRnEy
Originally posted by Wal Bada
But what ever said Yusuf deserves to be the best batsman this year because he was scoring that much under pressure. But to be counted as a legend he should prove against AUS, SAF and SL (mainly Murali). Yusuf averages blow 30 gainst all these three teams. |
Ponting got a gutsy 142, under a heap of pressure..
Well done to him, I would say that both Youhana and Ponting are on par this year. it is hard to differentiate them.. and it is unfair too. |
WOW! Exactly what I just said. I thought you were supporting Ponting.
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Wal Bada
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Posted: 05 December 2006 at 7:53am |
Originally posted by wiseguy
Unfortunately the thread is related to 2006 and yousuf never faced any of these three in his phenomenal year with bat (probably lucky for those teams I guess!) |
Wrong my dear, Wrong.
2nd Test SL vs PAK, Mar 26-30, 2006 Asgiriya, Kandy
1st inn. Yousuf b Muralitharan 17
2nd inn. Yousuf not out 14
He averages 31 against SL in 2006. Struggled like a kid against a man when facing Murali.
Edited by Wal Bada - 05 December 2006 at 7:56am
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Posted: 05 December 2006 at 8:48am |
 Interesting. Ponting has scored tons in all the series he has played this yr (against 3 teams in 4 series).
Unfortunately Ponting failed,,,,, scoring 49.
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Posted: 23 December 2006 at 1:50pm |
Well both batsman have no doubt had unbelivable years!
In the ODI arena I think the best batsman this year is probably between Sanath Jayasuriya or Chris Gayle mind you Shahariar Nafees is the first ever Bangladeshi to score 1000 ODI runs in a calender year big achievment that!
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Posted: 23 December 2006 at 3:41pm |
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It is a good achievement , well done to Nafees, he even scored a test century against the world champions, Australia. Gilchrist also had a good year in ODI's with the bat.
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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 3:00am |
This is my tribute to Mohammad Yousuf!
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Posted: 06 January 2007 at 11:09pm |
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nice one, he makes batting look so easy.
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Nice pic saad
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Posted: 07 January 2007 at 3:40pm |
Nice
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Posted: 13 March 2007 at 1:07am |
Both Pontingand Yousef are fine examples to all others. Both were good bats who averaged about 40 until they switched on to just how much ability they have. I do not think they are better skilled than most, they have just mentally decided to apply themselves more. The Don never thought he was any better than others, he just didn't get out as much.
Ponting and Yousef, Dravid too are simply more applied to their task.
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Posted: 14 March 2007 at 6:22pm |
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I agree. Tendulkar, Lara, Mark Waugh etc., in my opinion, are players who fall into the more skilled category. I am not saying that they didn't apply themselves though.
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Posted: 02 April 2007 at 8:44am |
haha Ricky all the way
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Posted: 02 April 2007 at 9:49am |
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not that you are in any biased of course
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Posted: 02 April 2007 at 10:14am |
Ponting got the Award
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Posted: 04 April 2007 at 2:09am |
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Ponting had a magnificent year with bat and of course that 5-0 series white wash the poms while Yousuf broke the record for most runs in a season. Take your pick! I watched all og Pontings knocks and only a couple of Yousuf's so from what i had seen, Ponting is my tip but i take nothing away from Yousuf. He had an absolute stellar season.
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Posted: 04 April 2007 at 7:10am |
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Two fine players with completely contrasting styles. Yousef ,
effortless boundary hitting , rarely clearing the ropes. Predominently
an offside player , favouring hitting through thirdman to extracover.
Then there's Ponting. The finest scorer through
midwicket in world cricket , his pulling is magnificent and he doesn't
care how quickly it's delivered. A fine hooker too (although his
pulling is better) his alround aggressive nature contrasts markedly
with the languid Yousef. Ponting also is a terrific player in the
"V" - his straight driving is immaculate. No inhibitions with this man
either - 6 hitting comes so naturally and it happens as often in tests
as it does in one dayers.
Two marvellous batsmen with
totally different approaches. The end result is centuries galore from
both men ,at a quick rate too.
That's the real beauty of cricket - there's more than one way to skin a cat (or a poor toiling bowler).
Edited by Sledger - 04 April 2007 at 7:12am
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Posted: 21 November 2007 at 4:23am |
[QUOTE=saadadvanced7] The year's coming to an end so lets see who you guys think was the best [Test] batsman of this year.
For me, the only and the obvious choice is Mohammad Yousuf. His record speaks for itself. He needs approx. 150 runs in one test to beat Viv Richard's record tally of 1710 runs in one year. You might say that more tests are played these days so obviously its easier to score more runs. BUT Vivian Richards achieved the feat in 19 innings, and so far Mohammad Yousuf has played 17 innings.  He has only 2 more innings left to have a go at Richard's record. Along with that, Yousuf has already equalled Viv Richard's and Arvinda De Silva's record of most Test centuries in one year (7). So if he scores one more century in the last test, he will also break that record.  Keep up the great work Yousuf![/
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I've thougt about it and said Yousef, then been told to think about it again, and said Yousef, then I was told to change my answer and I said Yousuf.
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Posted: 21 November 2007 at 4:27am |
ok so, what's your point. Why do you keep pulling up old threads with nothing to add. You quote people and add nothing, just support their point. Useless.  and anyways how old was the quote. an year old !!!
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