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punterrulz
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Topic: Who Has the best Batting techniquePosted: 17 November 2009 at 4:08am |
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Brad haddin too funnily enough looks very classy with the bat.
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punterrulz
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Posted: 31 October 2009 at 5:17am |
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Best techniques not necessarily the best batsmen as we all know. Kallis has a very good and upright technique. Tendulkar also displays a well rounded and correct technique. If we go back to retired players two that stand out are Mark Waugh and Damien Martyn. Very correct and stylish both of them. You d never be able to say Kallis, Waugh or martyn were particularly great batsmen but all very stylish and good to watch. Lara who was a great batsmen had an unusual technique, not techincally correct but very unique and worked for him.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 1:38pm |
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Kallis is very technically correct. Hardly ever a gap between his bat and pad. Dravid has a good one too but I've seen him bowl by balls cutting in and going through his gate.
Overall, it's real hard to penetrate the defense of Kallis and Chanderpaul. For such a flamboyant player, Sehwag has a tight one too.
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milkman
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 10:04am |
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The best way to analyse it is to look out how many limitations and weaknesses a player has. Ponting is weak at the start of his innings when he lunges forward and plants his front foot, making him suspect to caught behinds and the odd LBW and edge on to the stumps. He has also played off spin fairly poorly, although he has improved a great deal against spin in recent years. Then you get someone like Bradman who had pretty much 0 weaknesses, except in the Bodyline series but those tactics are now illegal and he still averaged nearly 60 in that series. Yet Bradman was not exactly technically correct or orthodox according to the textbook.
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 9:54am |
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ya good technique we also need to see how well the player adapts to
- Different pitches
- Different bowling attack (Spin,Fast and Swing)
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milkman
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 9:51am |
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Furthermore there's a difference between having a good technique and having an orthodox technique. Chanderpaul is completely unorthodox, but very technically sound and plays both spin and pace with few limitations or weaknesses.
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milkman
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 9:36am |
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I said best technique on the eye... not the best technique with regard to orthodoxy which you can imply from the latter sentence. |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 9:30am |
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Yes while judging upon best batting technique we should concentrate on things like
- The balance of head at all times
- Defence
- Can the batsman bring a snorther of a delivery directed at throat to dead still right infront on his leg
- Footwork
- Followthrough
- Sure of his offstump
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EDIT: Most important thing is we need to see how close the batsman come while playing the shot. Edited by MalhotraRaj84 - 22 October 2009 at 9:32am |
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 9:20am |
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I beg to disagree Milks - the guys you have listed are the most pleasing to the eye and have style. But the technique with these guys was not necessarily always spot on. I will go with Kallis and Hudson for technique.
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Posted: 22 October 2009 at 9:09am |
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Unlike Sachin, he didn't have as many gears or as much innovation to his game.
VVS, Mark Waugh and Damien Martyn have the best techniques that I have seen in terms of elegance. Most batsmen who are completely orthodox and textbook aren't as good to watch . |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 21 October 2009 at 5:21pm |
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I don't know about earlier players i.e before 80's coz no chance to see much videos, but from my earliest memories till date, I have not seen any player better than Gavaskar's technique.
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Posted: 24 February 2008 at 12:37pm |
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they should replace the word innovation in the dictionary with tendulkar. :-) or just have a picture of him playing a shot.
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Posted: 24 February 2008 at 5:01am |
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Well, then again Bradman wasn't considered technically correct either. Of course, like Tendulkar he was interested in innovation.
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Posted: 24 February 2008 at 2:54am |
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the reason kallis plays straighter is due to his particular style, he feels more comfortable and confident in driving the ball, where as tendulkar is able to play quite wristy strokes allowing him to play across the line and work the ball into the gaps, which would require more technical ability if you are always looking to play straight and technically correct it will be easy to set a field to, making it difficult to score runs, where as tendulkar can play the ball to all parts of the ground, which is probably why he has scored so many runs, he is truely a magician and should be given the credit he deserves, if some one said to me there is one batsmen you have to watch for the rest of your life i would choose tendulkar as i would never get bored, he is always trying new shots never happy sticking to the shots he is good at, which there are many. i can't see there been another player like him. truely amazing
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Posted: 24 February 2008 at 1:46am |
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Sachin is not technically the most correct. He does look really compact but Kallis has a real tight technique to breach! But still, his technique is very good, and that combined with his smart brain has made him the player he is.
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Playing across the line is not a question of his technique, it's a question of his decision-making. It's his decision to decide whether to play across the line depending on the merits of the ball, and the fact that he is effective at it only demonstrates the point further. He's more than capable with every shot. Edited by TKORL - 24 February 2008 at 1:45am |
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Well put. It's easy for us to say that his technique is weak, but you have to remember that most international batsmen would love to have half the runs Tendulkar does. And another point, Tendulkar has scored more centuries than Dravid and Chanderpaul put together. |
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If his "technique" was deficient, he would not have scored half the runs he has. His role for much of his career has been to be a strokeplayer, and while everyone makes mistakes, to say that Tendulkar is technically not of the absolutely highest caliber is a poor joke. |
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Tendulkar's deficiency is his technique????? Laughable. The greatest batsman of the modern age, and his weakness is his technique.... |
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 2:42pm |
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You don't ever see the best of a batsman's technique when he's playing to score lots. You see some very raw shots mixed in which leads to them getting out.
The time that you see the best techniques is when the batsmen are trying to set a score and run down some time to save their side in a test. You see the solid defensive work and some marvellous shots, instead of the wild slash over point.
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i agree chanderpaul is a top player and is difficult to set a plan to and scores runs quiet freely. the main aim of batting is to score runs so the mondern day players with the best technique which enables them to do this would be lara tendulkar and ponting, and arguable ponting will become the greatest of them all. no point plodding al game, difficult to get some one out if there not looking to play shots unlike ponting lara and tendulkar who are always looking to scoreruns working the ball well.
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 2:08pm |
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The technique of every batsman in the world is flawed in one way or another. But there are some players where this flaw is much harder to exploit because they learn to cover them up well.
Ponting's flaw is that very early in his innings anything on or about his off stump he's very weak against. That's why I think that Dale Steyn will take his wicket more than once when they meet.
Saying that though he compensates for this weakness by leaving anything just outside the off stump and making the bowler bowl straighter, where he tends to cream the ball.
Flaw and cover up.
Dravid's flaw is his lack of footwork, which tends to make him a target for LBW's but he's become good at taking the ball off of his pads which covers up his lack of footwork.
Again, Flaw and cover up.
You can do this for every batsman in the world if you sit and watch them enough.
Some are very noticable e.g:
Graeme Smith's flaw is anything that swings back into his pads, especially late, as he's never managed to learn to play with a sufficiently straight bat to anything in that region. That's why he edges so many onto his stumps. He's yet to find a decent cover up for it.
I think the player with the best batting technique in the world at the moment is a player with probably the most unorthodox stance and technique, Chanderpaul. In all the times I've watched him I've never seen him get out to the same style of ball twice. He learns with every wicket on what he should have done to avoid it and applies it pretty well.
The stance may be unorthodox and goofy but his technique is extremely good. Edited by The Tyke - 10 February 2008 at 2:10pm |
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 12:57pm |
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the question is not about how much he attacks, it's about the technique used in playing those shots |
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 12:20pm |
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well he must be doing some thing right as he will be the highest test run scorer by the time his career is over and he has scored the most century's so he can not be that easy to get out surely. looking good at the crease is not everything and just having a solid defence does not win you games, if you not looking to play shots and score runs all the time then it will be hard to get out where as tendulkar looks to score of every ball always trying to work the ball into gaps etc. tendulkar is amazing.
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 11:02am |
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Well i cant argue against that, tendulkers technique certainly works for him. |
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 10:16am |
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Yes his technique is his own, he plays across the line a lot but is very affective at it. Technically he is not as correct as Kallis or Dravid.
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 9:19am |
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And i don't think you realise his deficincys in technique.
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 5:25am |
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Have you absolutely lost it????? I don't think you realize how good Tendulkar really is... |
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Posted: 04 January 2008 at 9:01am |
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Man, I don't think it was ever Dravid, defensively I think you are correct, but his attacking game is IMO not as good say Ponting, Tendulkar, Lara etc. |
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Posted: 04 January 2008 at 8:57am |
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Kallis, Dravid, Boycott, Inzi and Hudson technically better than Tendulkar?????? Good Lord. "fine but not that good to be rated in the first slab of finest batting technicians"???? |
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