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jackshan 
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 Topic: Worst ODI teamPosted: 22 December 2011 at 10:49am |
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Watching England these days, and that i puzzled if the other team might boast eleven such hapless and hopeless people in their limited-overs team. The method we have a tendency to stagnate when the sector is up, and fruitlessly chase the sport with the tail when it's already gone. The method we have a tendency to choose bit-part players, like Nixon, whose inclusion has been justified as a result of he's an honest sledger. I wasn't even embarassed with today's defeat, I merely found the full issue to be an endless string of snickers.
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Amal
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Posted: 11 June 2009 at 12:20pm |
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spin wizard, i agree. But Pakistani people want happiness. hope so they will do better in next matches. Razzak will be their in next couple of days, but their fielding oh my GOD, they have to improve their fielding Edited by Amal - 11 June 2009 at 12:25pm |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 10 June 2009 at 5:11pm |
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West Indies, England and Pakistan - an any given day, one of them can take it!
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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milkman
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Posted: 10 June 2009 at 9:13am |
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They won their last ODI series 3-2 against Pakistan.....
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Ideal cricketer: Bowl like Warne, bat like Tendulkar, field like Jonty!!
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lalinda_sang
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Posted: 10 June 2009 at 9:00am |
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worst team at the moment is Australia>>>>>
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Malinga Is Back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Amal
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Posted: 10 June 2009 at 7:17am |
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The worst
Feilding side
of the world
Guess who?
PAKISTAN!!!!!!!!!!
This is not a joke. this is reality and PAKI team have to work on this.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 27 April 2009 at 3:00pm |
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Not to worry Amal, as is the case with most things, one topic can lead up to all kinds of talk. I guess the good thing is it's still Cricket!
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Amal
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Posted: 25 April 2009 at 3:38pm |
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I think the topic is "worst ODI team"
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Sledger
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Posted: 17 April 2009 at 7:29am |
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Yes , Taunton - tis a lovely ground actually , but the wicket is a batsman's dream. Bell has shaken up the selectors by making a stylish 172 and Warwickshire put on exactly 500. That's given Vaughan and Shah something to think about! |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 17 April 2009 at 5:33am |
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Nice to hear that atlast Pakistan have a colony in England.We were on the recieving end for so long Sledge
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spin wizard
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 3:39pm |
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Taunton ground eh Sledge? I hear it's a small ground too.
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 8:30am |
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Bell is 84* on Day 1 of the 1st county championship game of the season mate.
Don't read too much into that though - it's only against JP's mob on the flattest wicket this side of Pakistan ! |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 7:34am |
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Vaughan will most definately step in the side. Bell and Shah have done themselves no good recently
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milkman
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 7:21am |
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I reckon Vaughan should come back to the said in a Mike Brearly sort of role
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 7:11am |
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I'd like to see Flintoff used more sparingly this summer. In 2005
Vaughan overbowled him and I thought that led directly to all his ankle
problems. He'll always give his all , but he needs to be managed better
and I hope Strauss and Flower see it the same way.
He's not getting any younger either. I want to see three or four spells of 5 overs rather than 14 straight for an entire session. |
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milkman
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Posted: 16 April 2009 at 3:30am |
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Quite true.
People always say that Bradman had it easier because bowlers weren't as quick in his time. I beg to differ about the quickness of the bowlers, but either way the pitches back then were uncovered and did so much for the bowlers. Furthermore, he had next to no protective equipment - no helmet and useless pads/gloves. The bats back then were nothing like they are now and there were no ropes, a six was literally over the fence while a four had to go to the fence. Cricket has changed so much, even in the last decade that it's impossible to compare eras. |
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MalhotraRaj84
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 7:22pm |
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Spot on milkman. All those greats were bowling in an era when we used to find lively pitches everywhere(atleast equal battle btn bat and ball ).These days it's highly favoured to batsman.Earlier a Six used to be a treat and rarity, but these days its common. Earlier no team used to bowl bouncers to tailenders to get them out , yorkers would have done the job. It not like that now, some tailenders can even dish out pull or hook shot for a six. All those great of yesteryears[Botham,Kapil,Imran,Lille,Thompson,Hadlee,WI quartlet and many more] bowled to batsman with lesser protective gear,heavier bats on lively pitches.
These days with advanced equipments , lighter bats , video analysis tools, improvised cheeky shots and high competation even for bowler's with batting ability has made current day bowler look average.
Whenever a lively pitch is given and eveyone gets out soon the blame is put squarly on the groundsman that it was a dangerous pitch.
The biggest proof is the just see the average scoring after 1996 onwards.Also there has been so many 300+ scores in ODI's post Year 2000.
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Race to No 1 again ... started!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 4:43pm |
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True. A lot of flat decks around so bowlers will suffer a bit. Batsmen are more aggressive too so economy rates will suffer a bit. Just mean more chances of a wicket is there but it won't help much with flat, lifeless pitches around.
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milkman
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 4:07pm |
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Flintoff is an all round package, and he has this match winning aura about him. The fact he doesn't have a lot of tons has to do with the fact that he doesn't convert a lot of his 50s, he has almost 30 half centuries + he had a relatively poor start to his career. Flintoff will always be considered one of the best all rounders of this era. Very dangerous player.
Players these days don't get a hell of a lot of 5-fors as players did in the past, except for Murali. Guys like Hadlee and Imran Khan got so many of them. Just depends on who else is in your attack and the conditions I guess. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 4:03pm |
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True. What Freddie gives you is very good too. Sheer consistancy with the ball so you know you have one bowler who will take his 3 odd wickets per game with good economy rate. Pollock was fine player. I remember him coming at 3 against Pakistan couple years ago and scoring 80 odd not out. That innings had shots of a top class batsman. Still, Kallis is the best of the lot for me.
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milkman
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 4:02pm |
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His brother Grant was born in Salisbury. Probably explains why he averaged 20 runs less per innings than Andy! |
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milkman
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 3:31pm |
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Pollock was a good all rounder, but nowhere near as good as Kallis. Kallis would have been a better all rounder had he played less cricket. Too much cricket takes a big toll on these all rounders.
Botham had something like 25 5-fors, Flintoff has about 3. Botham also scored about 14 or 15 tons, and Flintoff has about 3 or 4. I don't like to look into stats too much, but Botham was certainly more of a match-winner. |
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spin wizard
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 3:27pm |
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Well, since then, we have had 3 top all rounders in Kallis, Pollock and Flintoff. Shame Kallis doesn't show more interest in "fast" bowling anymore and focusing more on his batting. Freddie is healing as much as playing and Pollock, well, since he dropped his pace, he's been less effective but still 3 top class all rounders. Everyone has a moment in their career when their brilliance fades. Lara played with the same brutality through out his career but his ODI form was poor in his last few years. Tendulkar doesn't beat ball with as much disdain as he use to. Viv Richards and Clive Lloyd didn't average as much in their older days.
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 5:26am |
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I guess Kapil went on to play a couple of more years just to chase some world record. He was completely useless in the 90s but just went on to play so many more test matches than he actually deserved to, just to get that record.
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milkman
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 5:13am |
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Yer all those great all rounders left around the same time, Kapil Dev, Ian Botham, Richard Hadlee and Imran Khan.
I don't think cricket has been the same since. |
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zuhair_abbasi
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Posted: 15 April 2009 at 4:56am |
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Ian Botham in 92 was just dragging himself. He was nowhere near his good days - forget the best. Imran was also in the same league, he just played that to lead the side. his bowling was quite average.
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milkman
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Posted: 14 April 2009 at 2:33pm |
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That's my point, after 92 they crumbled....
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kirankri
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Posted: 14 April 2009 at 2:31pm |
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But they had a genuine all-rounder Ian Botham in the 92 WC.
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milkman
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Posted: 14 April 2009 at 2:24pm |
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England's obsession with having an all rounder killed them. Imagine if they played proper players instead of guys like Mark Ealham, Ronnie Irani, Adam and Ben (God rest him) Hollioake...
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Posted: 14 April 2009 at 2:14pm |
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No sympathy whatsoever for the South Africans in that semifinal. They only sent down 45 overs in their allotted time - Wessels had no answer to Hick and Fairbrother and just used the rules to suit his team. The rain was divine intervention !
Too true - they've been nowhere since. I don't count the win in Sharjah under Hollioake - mickey mouse competition! |
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