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    Posted: 15 April 2009 at 4:07pm
Flintoff is an all round package, and he has this match winning aura about him. The fact he doesn't have a lot of tons has to do with the fact that he doesn't convert a lot of his 50s, he has almost 30 half centuries + he had a relatively poor start to his career. Flintoff will always be considered one of the best all rounders of this era. Very dangerous player.
Players these days don't get a hell of a lot of 5-fors as players did in the past, except for Murali.
Guys like Hadlee and Imran Khan got so many of them. Just depends on who else is in your attack and the conditions I guess.

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True.  A lot of flat decks around so bowlers will suffer a bit.  Batsmen are more aggressive too so economy rates will suffer a bit.  Just mean more chances of a wicket is there but it won't help much with flat, lifeless pitches around.
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Originally posted by milkman


Players these days don't get a hell of a lot of 5-fors as players did in the past, except for Murali. Guys like Hadlee and Imran Khan got so many of them. Just depends on who else is in your attack and the conditions I guess.
 
Spot on milkman. All those greats were bowling in an era when we used to find lively pitches everywhere(atleast equal battle btn bat and ball ).These days it's highly favoured to batsman.Earlier a Six used to be a treat and rarity, but these days its common. Earlier no team used to bowl bouncers to tailenders to get them out , yorkers would have done the job. It not like that now, some tailenders can even dish out pull or hook shot for a six. All those great of yesteryears[Botham,Kapil,Imran,Lille,Thompson,Hadlee,WI quartlet and many more] bowled to batsman with lesser protective gear,heavier bats on lively pitches.
 
These days with advanced equipments , lighter bats , video analysis tools, improvised cheeky shots and high competation even for bowler's with batting ability has made current day bowler look average.
 
Whenever a lively pitch is given and eveyone gets out soon the blame is put squarly on the groundsman that it was a dangerous pitch.
 
The biggest proof is the just see the average scoring after 1996 onwards.Also there has been so many 300+ scores in ODI's post Year 2000.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote milkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2009 at 3:30am
Quite true.
People always say that Bradman had it easier because bowlers weren't as quick in his time. I beg to differ about the quickness of the bowlers, but either way the pitches back then were uncovered and did so much for the bowlers. Furthermore, he had next to no protective equipment -  no helmet and useless pads/gloves. The bats back then were nothing like they are now and there were no ropes, a six was literally over the fence while a four had to go to the fence.
Cricket has changed so much, even in the last decade that it's impossible to compare eras.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2009 at 7:11am
I'd like to see Flintoff used more sparingly this summer. In 2005 Vaughan overbowled him and I thought that led directly to all his ankle problems. He'll always give his all , but he needs to be managed better and I hope Strauss and Flower see it the same way.
          He's not getting any younger either. I want to see three or four spells of 5 overs rather than 14 straight for an entire session.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote milkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2009 at 7:21am
I reckon Vaughan should come back to the said in a Mike Brearly sort of role
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Vaughan will most definately step in the side. Bell and Shah have done themselves no good recently
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Bell is 84* on Day 1 of the 1st county championship game of the season mate.
         Don't read too much into that though - it's only against JP's mob on the flattest wicket this side of Pakistan !
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Taunton ground eh Sledge?  I hear it's a small ground too.
 
 
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Nice to hear that atlast Pakistan have a colony in England.We were on the recieving end for so long Sledge Wink
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Originally posted by spin wizard

Taunton ground eh Sledge?  I hear it's a small ground too.


  Yes , Taunton - tis a lovely ground actually , but the wicket is a batsman's dream. Bell has shaken up the selectors by making a stylish 172 and Warwickshire put on exactly 500. That's given Vaughan and Shah something to think about!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Amal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 April 2009 at 3:38pm
I think the topic is "worst ODI team"
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2009 at 3:00pm
Not to worry Amal, as is the case with most things, one topic can lead up to all kinds of talk.  I guess the good thing is it's still Cricket!
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The worst
 
Feilding side
 
of the world
 
Guess who?
 
 
 
 
PAKISTAN!!!!!!!!!!
 
This is not a joke. this is reality and PAKI team have to work on this.
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worst team at the moment is Australia>>>>>
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Post Options Post Options   Quote milkman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2009 at 9:13am
They won their last ODI series 3-2 against Pakistan.....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2009 at 5:11pm
West Indies, England and Pakistan - an any given day, one of them can take it!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Amal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2009 at 12:20pm

spin wizard, i agree.

But Pakistani people want happiness. hope so they will do better in next matches. Razzak will be their in next couple of days, but their fielding oh my GOD, they have to improve their fielding



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Post Options Post Options   Quote jackshan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 December 2011 at 10:49am
Watching England these days, and that i puzzled if the other team might boast eleven such hapless and hopeless people in their limited-overs team. The method we have a tendency to stagnate when the sector is up, and fruitlessly chase the sport with the tail when it's already gone. The method we have a tendency to choose bit-part players, like Nixon, whose inclusion has been justified as a result of he's an honest sledger. I wasn't even embarassed with today's defeat, I merely found the full issue to be an endless string of snickers.
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