ICC World Cup 2011 (India - Sri Lanka- Ba

I don't think I need to add my voice to this, Mikey has just pointed out all I was going to.

It shows what lateness does.

P.S. It's been a while since I've talked to an Aussie fan who actually liked Tendulkar, I twas getting tired of the 'Ricky Ponting is better than Tendulkar' fans, seeing as that is what I've had to talk to recently!(Not counting this forum, since I've been away for a while.)

Thanks Raj for digging into those threads to justify my opinion. And yes, even I don't want to drag this topic. All I can say is, my opinion is not baseless. And Raj, you have echoed my thoughts w.r.t Azhar's case. Even Jadeja was given the same treatment. And for your info Sam, Azhar has been one of the long serving captain for India. And there have been Mansur Ali Khan Pataudi also who captained India. And if that is the reason behind not supporing Indian cricket, Pak would have been the last country you would have supported. Not sure which is the country having least no. of match fixing allegations. May be England or New Zealand? You should have supported those teams.

Anyway, I don't have anything personal against you. Was just pointing out the wrong thoughts.

yes Zuhair, for the sake of the forums I will not drag this on the forum, esp on a thread which I started for WC discussion.

I have answers to all your questions Raj, including your remarks in red which are not to be generalized. I'll PM you my response as posting here is inappropriate.

Anyone who has to say anything to me on this can PM me, we need not post on the forum please.

This is seriously damaging my reputation, totally baseless and uncalled for comments made in sheer frustration of I don't know what.

To Kiran - It is disgusting to say that I cannot digest the WC victory of India, not one single post of mine would suggest that, this is downright pathetic, I like Pak cricket and hence I say some good things about them, I would certainly want them to be the best team in all formats, how on earth is this related to India is completely beyond me. Please clarify on what basis have you made your comments.

To Raj - you are quoting my comments completely out of context or should I say giving them a different context, this is extremely disappointing. saying that many people look at Pak as a "muslim representation" how on earth, or even on other planets, is this related to saying that they are "muslim representation"?

as for my later comment, it was a plain statement which stated that since it were three muslim players who were involved in a corrupt act and since many people across the world look at Pak as a "muslim representation" it is an embarrassment for all Muslims too. does this mean that I'm saying "all muslims are corrupt" or "all pakistani's are corrupt?" or "pakistan is a muslim representation"? nowhere have I said any such thing.

Finally, by God's grace, I have many non-muslim friends who very well know that I support Pakistan and they have absolutely no problems with that. There is a friend of mine, she also supports Pakistan and a lot of her colleagues even tease her whenever a Pak match is scheduled asking her is she is going to be ill on that day and will be taking a leave. There is another friend of mine, he is a  non-muslim, and is as big a pakistani fan as I have seen in my life, he even fights with people if they say anything against Pak cricketers.

Add to this I know many many many people who support Australia, RSA, and other countries but it doesn't mean they don't love their country. I'm one of the biggest followers of Indian sports, I do not have to support Indian cricket team or hate Pakistani cricket team to show my patriotism. For me Indian cricket is not equal to Patriotism and I pity those who think on these lines.

As I have said many times before, my first choice team was India till the match fixing scandal broke out, they way they treated Azhar after that lead to my change of heart and I started supporting Pakistan after that, what I speak is the truth,  whether you believe it or not is up to you, but please no one has the right to make baseless comments against me.

To Zuhair and V4P - Thanks guys, I hope you will always understand your fellow human beings in the right spirit.


Edited by sam_ahmed - 15 April 2011 at 9:26pm

Originally posted by sam_ahmed another poor example of an Indian not being able to take anything good written about our neighbor country. also a case of very poor analogy, dragging results from 2003, leaving out 2009 CT, and while on one had it was a case of a young team trying to make an impact, this is the case of a team that has already peaked. having said all that SLN have a very good team but I doubt if they can be the best in the world in both the formats, most of their players as I said have gone past their peak and  unless they unearth some good young talent, they'd struggle to do be the best.

Calm down mates. Well I do agree that Pakistan does reasonably well in ICC events - it is far from being the best but they are very much on the road of progression and I will take the slow progress. And I share Sam's sentiments here regarding Sri Lanka - they will find life tough without Murali and Malinga in the longer version especially away from home.

And Kiran - I don't think you should drag religion into this. This is uncalled for. At no point did Sam make any reference to religion when it comes to his supporting Pakistan. My wife supports New Zealand whenever they play - and she takes no stock in Pakistan - and she is very much a Pakistani - I just digest it as her personal liking/disliking.

Not an example of not being able to take anything good written about the neighbouring country Sam. Case of someone not able to digest the world cup victory of their own country. Otherwise I don't see any reason for talking about the no.1 test ranking which is totaly out of context at this point of time.

I understand the disappointment of the fans when their side is on the losing side, as I myself have experienced it many a times. Did you see mee posting any teasing/sarcastic  responses to the fans of their country when we won the WC?

Had it been Zuhair/Kahmad/Shan or someone posting about their team's long term objectives, I would have either added any positive comments or kept quite if I had nothing to add. Here is a case of supporting the team because of religious bias. And I am afraid, this is not the way it should be.

I know it Mikey :-). This was a sarcastic response to one of the posts in the other thread.

Following stats of Sri Lanka is very impressive.

2003 Champions Trophy - Joint winners
2003 WC - SFs

 The 2011 CWC has been a sponsor's delight with the ad rates soaring to record heights for a cricket match in the Ind/Pak semi-finals costing 17-18 Lakhs for 10 seconds(monumental increase considering it was @ 3.5Lakhs/10secs when the tournament started).
Apparently the finals expected to fetch 25 Lakhs per 10secs.

The TRP/TVR/TAM ratings have been really good with the highest avg TVR for all matches recorded upto the QF not surprisingly being the IND/AUS one at 12.34 TVR.

http://www.indiantelevision.com/mam/headlines/y2k11/mar/marmam110.php


Edited by vote4peace - 01 April 2011 at 1:42pm

Well cricket in India is like a religion and that was a major game for India so it's understandable that so many popular personalities attended. they must have been overjoyed with India's victory. That was probably the biggest game of the tournament so far!

Yesterday's game saw all the who's who of Indian celebrities, from the film fraternity to politicians.. from the PM's and delegates to billion dollar business men.

Really enjoyed watching Sonia Gandhi(Leader of the Ruling Party) and Isha Sharvani ( Actress and Zaheer's ex - lucky ******). Both were very child like and a lil too crazy.. Isha very much herself, But a very not so usual Mrs Gandhi

Originally posted by Amal Waow Zuhair, you lucky man....hope you enjoy there. I'm confident that this time Indians will show hospitality towards Pakistani people

Cricket is what bonds Pakistan and India! Hopefully, win or loss, we don't see riots or the sort after the match.

Originally posted by zuhair_abbasi Hey I am off to Mohali tonight - very excited about it. the newspaper I work for is sending me as their representative - it all just happened so quick. Still cant believe I will be there. More importantly, it wont cost me a single penny - it does not get better!!

welcome to our country zuhair and have a wonderful time ... have a happy and safe journey! not too sure if there will be any rooms available in chandigarh though... apparently every damn hotel room is booked!!!