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Yea, and Wasim was a better bowler.
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shaun pollock is similar to wasim akram but a better batsmen

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It wasn't 259 Shan. It was 257*.

I don't consider Wasim to be an all-rounder. He was just a helpful batsman lower down the order and sometimes played some crucial innings. He played a crucial inning in the 1992 World Cup final when he got a quick fire 33* off only 18 balls.
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No doubt in Sober's greatness.

But Wasim is my favourite as a bowler. Of course wasim was also an all rounder. Dont forget wasim's 259 with 12 sixes (greatest in an innings of a test match). Though as an all rounder Sobers is better.

But i think Wasim was having the greatest variety of fast bowling. He could bowl all the six deliveries with each different from others.

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then sobers is the greatest ever all rounder


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then sobers is the greatest ever all rounder
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He could bowl like 3 different kind of things. He was a good fielder and an awesome batsman. I read that in a book (ESPN Legends of Cricket). Bradman called Sobers the '5 in 1 Cricketer'. And Bradman considered Sobers 254 in Australia the best ever knock in Australia.

If you compare Wasim's and Sobers fast bowling only, then obviously Wasim's better.

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Check the dictionary Mebz/Anil......devastating doesn't mean versatile.

Wasim and Waqar both bow to Sobers' greatness , he was simply the best.
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wasim akram was the most devastating with waqr younis
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Sir Garfiel Sober was really fantastic, no doubt about that. Sorry i just skipped his name. No macth for Sobers at his time. Superb, with a lot of variety.


Dead right Shan !! We were extremely fortunate to have seen the great man play. One other thing too - he showed fantastic sportsmanlike qualities , a true gentleman !!
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Sir Garfiel Sober was really fantastic, no doubt about that. Sorry i just skipped his name. No macth for Sobers at his time. Superb, with a lot of variety.
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THE greatest bolwer for versatility is without any doubt Garry Sobers!!

The great man could bowl really quickly - left arm with terrific swing. If that was ineffective he then switched to medium paced off-cutters or leg-cutters!

Then as the match progressed he could bowl orthodox left arm offspin or wrist spin!!!

Not only could he bowl practically ANY type of ball - he bowled them all brilliantly - he took wickets with each type throughout his career.

Add to that the fact that he hit a cricket ball harder than anyone else on the planet PLUS he was a fantastic close catcher and you'll see why Sir Garfield Sobers is recognised by every cricketing fan as THE best player the world has ever seen.

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Michael Holding was "too fast too furious" capable to destroy any batting line up in the world. He was superb and the fastest bowler of his time.
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Fazal Mahmood (late) was champion of Mat. He destoyed English batting line up in Oval to lead Pakistan to the first victory against England. That gave a great boost to Pakistan's cricket.
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Malcolm Marshall was a perfect fast bowler. He had everything. His bouncers were extremely accurate and destroyed a lot of batsman.
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I agree, that could be the valid reason. Accurate bouncers can destroy batsmen.
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Windies speedsters are normally know for their extra heights. They deliver the ball from a greater height and its really hard for the batsmen to play the ball coming on the rise from good length. But i just dont understand, how Malcom was able to terrify the batsmen despite having a medium (rather small) height. He was terrific. I remember that during Windies tour to Pakistan, he just caused severe injuries to half of the Pakistani team. with his sheer pace. He was so cool to watch.


I think because Marshall was shorter the ball skidded through and surprised the batsmen - he was also unrelentingly accurate with his bouncers which would explain why he hit so many people
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Malcom Marshal was a great bowler, accurate, speedy, actually he was the second bowler after thomson who could rise a ball pitched at a batsmen's feetoot,really really fast.
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And Wasim was much more faster earlier in his career. In the middle and towards the end of his career, he just made some adjustment to his run up and speed, becoz he had devveloped much of the variety in his bowlig that he was not much dependent on his speed.
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Windies speedsters are normally know for their extra heights. They deliver the ball from a greater height and its really hard for the batsmen to play the ball coming on the rise from good length. But i just dont understand, how Malcom was able to terrify the batsmen despite having a medium (rather small) height. He was terrific. I remember that during Windies tour to Pakistan, he just caused severe injuries to half of the Pakistani team. with his sheer pace. He was so cool to watch.
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Yup. Malcolm Marshall was a complete fast bowler.
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Malcolm Marshall was the most adaptable bowler I have ever seen. Although he was express pace when he wanted to be he was a master at summing up the wicket and conditions and bowling appropriately, including bowling medium paced cutters to great effect on the subcontinent.
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Rana is not too slow. I have seen deliveries from him that were at 142 kph, and I don't think that's medium pace. Wasim use to bowl at 135-140 kph, and he was called a fast bowler so Rana is also a fast bowler.

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Rana Naved Ul-Hasan i feel bowls too slow, only military medium pace. So at his pace he should be getting good control or he'll be kicked off team. Wasim is in a class of his own when it comes to Paki quik bowlers. Wasim is brilliant, Bouncers, yorkers, reverse swing, some convential swing, sharp pace, plus the variety of being left handed. Also a handy batsman too, few 100's, incl. 257* aginst Zim (not a gr8 op-postion, but still.) Clean hitter of the ball, Sixes were someting he could do.

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Irfan pathan has the most potential, and I believe if he continues his form, in another year's time he'll be a great bowler.
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There have been great bowlers, but only complete bowler is Wasim, most versitile, most reliable on any sort of wickets, only one of his class these days is fredie!
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We are talking of versatility. I mean more vaiation in bowling, speed, variety etc.

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