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Poll Question: Who is the better player?
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    Posted: 29 January 2006 at 9:42pm
Yeah, South Africa would really be a lot more confident if Kallis was fit for the vb series
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Kallis's batting is sort of useful and useless in ODIs. He makes good runs but he is waaaayyy too slow.
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the guys built like a tank and yet he still bats like a wuss

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I'm sorry but my vote goes with Ponting. Class batsman and captain and also a legendery fielder! Kallis is boring but if you need a reliant batsman then it's a close call between Kallis and Ponting.

 

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No doubt Ponting is a class batsman, and an outstanding keeper...but I wouldn't call him a good captain. Did you see him in the Ashes. The only reason he wins is because of all the great players in his team.

Kallis is also a class batsman. He is a useful bowler. He is an outstanding all-rounder.

But Kallis is very, very boring to watch.
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true i made a mistake, he's not all that great a captain...not like our Inzy
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 January 2006 at 12:35am
I agree. Inzamam leads a side of mostly amateur youngsters. But he has taken all those amateur youngsters, and with the help of Woolmer, he has transformed them into a hardworking and dedicated bunch of cricketers. Not only that, but along with being captain, he is also at the peak of his career in terms of batting. His batting has been just outstanding for the last couple of years. Great job Inzi.

Ponting leads a side filled with awesome cricketers. Adam Gilchrist, Glenn McGrath, Shane Warne, Mathew Hayden, Brett Lee, and more.
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ricky ponting is easily a better batter than kallis

he can bat in test and one day situation

kallis isn't as consistant than ponting he is too slow aswell



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is ponting a keeper??
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Kallis plays for his average, he goes for not outs and runs risk free meaning very slow,, selfish cricketer.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 February 2006 at 1:55pm
That's true. Kallis is a selfish player.
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Kallis is not a selfish player, ok say that he stops being "selfish" and starts batting like Afridi, that is self destruction. Kallis for me a much beteer player than Ricky Ponting.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote samhache Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 2008 at 10:32pm
Ponting is a better batsman. And a better fielder. Ponting is much better to watch when on form.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 June 2008 at 5:27am
Kallis technically stronger making him harder to dismiss but Ponting more flairy and I guess the flairy ones are the winners.
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I've always rated Kallis as a batsman. He's got a very, very good test record for someone who hasn't scored a double ton, his consistency gives him the nod over Ponting for me.

He's a more than useful bowler too and an excellent catcher. He's underrated by a lot of people.
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I must say i think Ponting is a much better batsman because:
 
Ponting bats for Australia to win test matches.
 
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Kallis bats for Jacques Kallis's batting average.
 
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Kallis better then Ponting? This is absurd! Kallis has been a good batsmen in his time but has never played at the level of Ponting. Kallis also only played a a level comparable with Ponting for a few years and those years are well and truly over! The fact that kallis bowls dosent necessarily make him an all round better player. Ponting clearly the superior batsmen, captain and fielder. The only thing Kallis has over Ponting is the fact he bowls, not too well either anymore I mite add. Ponting has the likes of Lee, Johnson and Siddle at his disposal so the fact he dosent bowl is irrelevant!

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Oh another trait of Kallis is that he is very slow, stodgy and conservative as a batsmen and as JP Barnes said Kallis bats for Kallis and for his batting average. Ponting on the other hand is a team player not concerned with the trivialisties of batting averages.

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The one thing that disappoints me about Kallis is that he hasn't made a test 200, whole Ponting has made 4 I believe. I do think at times Kallis plays for his average, he doesn't change gears and follow the flow of the game when he bats. Also, he tends to only bowl when there's a few cheap wickets available which is also a bit disappointing. They both have a role in their respective sides, however this comparison is futile - it's like comparing apples to oranges. Ponting is a batsman and Kallis is an all rounder, you can't say one is better than the other because they have different roles. Of course Ponting is a better batsman and a better fieldsman, but Kallis has the added string to his bow by bowling fast medium swingers, which are quite effective.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote MalhotraRaj84 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 6:49am
punterrulz calm down.You seem to be on a war path. This forum is all about expressing your opinion.To put your point forward you need not make mockery of anathor great player.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote punterrulz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 11:50am
Im not making a mockery my friend im stating my opinion. I said kallis is good and valuable to the sth african side but also stated what I believe are his weakness s, what is so wrong with that?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 November 2009 at 7:21pm
People need to check out Kallis strike rate over the last few years, he's up that maybe just to prove a point to people who say he bats selfishly.  Nevertheless, whether selfish or not, Kallis is one of the best batsman to have played the game, very hard to remove and a perfect coaching site for young batsman to model there game after.
 
Kallis is not just a batsman but the best all rounder I've seen.  his batting is twice that of Flintoff so it's no comparison!  Ponting is the better batsman though. Big%20smile
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Post Options Post Options   Quote punterrulz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 November 2009 at 7:09am
Sadley kallis now seems all at sea against all but the weakest attacks. Hes done nothing for a long time now and his best years look to be over. Hes never been a batter batsmen then Ponting even at his peek. Failed in aus last year and made an ordinary centurt against aus in sth africa. He looked terrible in england last year too. Never a great in my mind. Falls a long way short of that category.
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Kallis current status
Batting and fielding averages
MatInnsNORunsHSAveBFSR100504s6sCtSt
Tests1482513912036201*56.772654445.3440551328881730
ODIs317303531137213945.481560372.8817848911351230
T20Is161615127334.13427119.9004401760
First-class2383915618388201*54.8857932350
List A4133956514638155*44.35231071540
Twenty20888715262589*36.452292114.5202326357360
Bowling averages
MatInnsBallsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveEconSR4w5w10
Tests1482451858388082716/549/9232.502.8468.5750
ODIs3172781055884812675/305/3031.764.8139.5220
T20Is161218622952/202/2045.807.3837.2000
First-class23827318127724066/5431.452.8067.280
List A41313481105733455/305/3030.644.7039.0330
Twenty20887313281750463/163/1638.047.9028.8000
Ponting Current status
 
MatInnsNORunsHSAveBFSR100504s6sCtSt
Tests158270281265625752.292145458.9939581442731870
ODIs370360391368616442.631698080.60308212301621570
T20Is1716240198*28.64302132.7802411180
First-class263451552177625754.9873972800
List A442432521604216442.2134971890
Twenty202322247798*23.85394121.06024613100
Bowling averages

MatInnsBallsRunsWktsBBIBBMAveEconSR4w5w10
Tests1583457527351/01/054.602.84115.0000
ODIs370515010431/121/1234.664.1650.0000
T20Is17------------
First-class2631470799142/1057.073.26105.000
List A44234926983/343/3433.624.6243.6000
Twenty2023-----------

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