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    Posted: 08 March 2006 at 10:03am

for me ponting at the moment has to be the best batting captin.

but inzy is not far from him



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Post Options Post Options   Quote -JP- Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 March 2006 at 2:06am

I think it was because it was posted when Trescothick was captaining the team in Pakistan.

The way Vaughan's knee is looking, it might have been a prescient addition to the poll.

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Originally posted by bighitter

In the end i went for ponting but i do feel he made a couple of Bad decisions in The Ashes. Bowling at Edgbaston being the main one. He has got so may experienced players in his side, he can ask all of them for advice: Gilchrist, Warne, Mcgrath he always has someone to talk to. I was just wondering why Trescothick was there and Vaughn isn't.


Maybe because Vaughn sucks..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote minimurali Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2006 at 9:19pm
 Dravid is good...but as good as Ponting? I'm not sure...
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Pls include Dravid in the list ,, coz I think he is among the top 5 batting skippers.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bighitter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 March 2006 at 8:07am
In the end i went for ponting but i do feel he made a couple of Bad decisions in The Ashes. Bowling at Edgbaston being the main one. He has got so may experienced players in his side, he can ask all of them for advice: Gilchrist, Warne, Mcgrath he always has someone to talk to. I was just wondering why Trescothick was there and Vaughn isn't.

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trescothick the most under-rated batsmen on their he is a true legend
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Flavorz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2006 at 10:03pm
Well I would say Dravid but he isn't here.
So Inzamam just edges it.
Ponting is good but under pressure, he can crumble easily. Inzamam on the other hand leads from the front and has saved his team on many occasions, but he needs to speak more.
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yeah dravids captaicny already has been great
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Post Options Post Options   Quote DRAVID FAN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2006 at 5:25pm
Maybe because he has become captain very reasontly. Punter and Inzy have been a captain for a very long time and have a lot of captaincy experience behind them. Give Dravid some more time, but yeah, Punter and Inzy are better skippers then him right now.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 February 2006 at 10:31pm
He may be a better Test Batsman than Punter and Inzi, but he isn't a better batsman skipper than the 2.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ANIL KUMBLE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 February 2006 at 10:22pm
i think dravid id the best test batsmen in the world he is better then inzy and punter in the test arena
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 February 2006 at 10:15pm
Yea, he is certainly a good batting skipper, but the best would have to Inzamam or Ponting.
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he is better than trescothick, chanderpaul, smith and fleming and attapatu.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jyothika Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 February 2006 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by DRAVID FAN

where is dravid in the polls.


Exactly. Where is he? He's better than some of them up there.
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where is dravid in the polls.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saadadvanced7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 February 2006 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by Crick

the problem in syaing this is that you could mean physically there is a huge hole in the team, or in a cricketing sense that they are missing a great player!!


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Originally posted by saadadvanced7

Take out Inzamam from the Pakistani team...and there is an even bigger hole!

the problem in syaing this is that you could mean physically there is a huge hole in the team, or in a cricketing sense that they are missing a great player!! (hope i didn't offend anyone)

i agree with the fact that inzi handles the pressure best, but i think smith is one to watch for this type of person in the future, mainly becuase i admire what he did recently in Aus - he was worried that with an inexperienced team, some may buckle under the pressure, so what he did was kept the spotlight on him by those comments that he made(and no-one knew why - well now you do) for example he said that warne wanted to be captain and dissed him a bit, so for the whole of the match - the aussies were gunning for smith, so the rest of the lads didn't have too much pressure - he did have a dissapointing tour but it was very much like martyns ashes in that he was out of form, but managed to get into 20's, 30's and got out, and many times was given out wrongly - judging by how he coped in aus i think he could a one to watch for the future! maybe the mentality of inzi, but ability to be as attacking as ponting!

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take trescothick out and put dravid.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clobber Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2006 at 12:47pm
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talking runs scored clobber, ponting has scored 5807 at 65.97 which is excellent in any1's books. no-one will ever be better than bradman no question about it, that wasn't the point anyway and i think most of us realised that..... My point was that take out ponting from the Australian team and there is a huge hole....



Originally posted by Clapo

He is the Greatest ever No.3 in the game...



That looks a fairly unambiguous statement to me
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Take out Inzamam from the Pakistani team...and there is an even bigger hole!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clapo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2006 at 12:59am

talking runs scored clobber, ponting has scored 5807 at 65.97 which is excellent in any1's books. no-one will ever be better than bradman no question about it, that wasn't the point anyway and i think most of us realised that..... My point was that take out ponting from the Australian team and there is a huge hole....

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Originally posted by Clapo

You do realise that the whole "Inzy don't perform and Pakistan Lose" thing is a load of BS.... did they not just Hammer India in the final test with Inzy. And is it just me or is Younis and Mohammed yousef to extremely talented batsmen that Pakistan ALSO seem to rely on a lot...


So you're saying that Pakistan win when Inzamam doesn't perform. Tell me one thing...do Yousuf and Younis perform as consistently as Inzamam. NO!!! Younis is Bradman against India but he doesn't do a thing against other teams. Yousuf is a fine batsman and performs quite consistently but not as consistently as Inzamam. Inzamam is the best Pakistani batsman and the most relied on Pakistani batsman as well. You Know it! When Inzamam doesn't perform, you know and I know, that the spirit of the Pakistan team is not high and they are feeling pressured. Yousuf and Younis don't always rescue us. They do rescue us at times but not always. When Inzamam performs, most of the times Pakistan wins...his record shows that...the record which is only second to Bradman's. 17 of Inzi's 25 Test centuries have come in Pakistani wins. That's only bettered by the Don!

Originally posted by Clapo

The whole pressure thing is bull as well saad. If inzy doesn't perform, chances are Younis Kahn, Mohammed Yousif, Salman, or Akmal will, so please don't dribble on about "Inzy knows if he don'st perform they will lose....yada yada yada" because well all know its not true. In the SA series, if ponting didn't perform, chances are SA would have won the 3rd test, maybe even the series....


The pressure thing is bull? Are you out of your mind?? You know very well that Inzamam is by far the best batsman in the world under pressure. Ponting kisses Inzamam's feet when playing under pressure. Inzamam's has saved Pakistan on countless occassions. He has won games for us that seemed impossible to win...like the 1992 World Cup Semi-final. Inzamam's performance is the most important to the Pakistan team. You know it. If Inzamam's wicket falls early, the whole team spirit gets low and they feel the pressure. How many times have Yousuf, Younis, and Akmal saved us. They have saved us, especially Akmal...he's saved us on quite a lot of occassions, but none of them have played as many match winning innings as the big man.

Originally posted by Clapo

You also said it's not ponting captaincy thats winning them games, its the other players ??? pfffffffft take ponting out of the game and see how Aust. performs. He is the Greatest ever No.3 in the game... Captaincy is more than just decide to bat/bowl first, and deciding where to position the field. It's also leading by example, it's knowing when to put warne in the attack, or knowing that this batsmen has a weakness against fast short pitched bowling.....


No doubt Ponting leads from the front. He makes good decisions. But he also leads a bunch of star players. When his star players don't perform...he sometimes loses...uhum...The Ashes! Gilly and Hayden have a poor time...Ponting captaining under pressure...he screws up...Australia go home crying!
Inzamam leads from the front. He makes the right decisions. And on top of that he leads a bunch of amateur youngsters. The only experienced players in the team are Shoaib, Younis, and Yousuf. He has taken a bunch of amateur youngsters and turned them into a collective, hardworking, and top team.

That all being said, I think its quite clear that Inzamam is the best batting captain at the moment.

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take ponting out of the game and see how Aust. performs. He is the Greatest ever No.3 in the game...



dear god....

yes, of course Ponting is the best, so much better than that useless old Bradman for example
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Originally posted by saadadvanced7

True. Ponting's form in the Test arena has been simply outstanding. He just keeps getting better and better. But he doesn't bat under as much pressure as Inzamam does.

Inzamam has also been in great form with the bat...though not as good as Ponting. The reason for that could be that he almost always has to bat under pressure. He knows that his failure could mean the failure of the team. He knows that his failure could change the result of the match. When Inzamam fails, most of the times the rest of the batting order just gets ripped apart as well. But when Inzamam does well, which is almost always, the rest of the team is confident that they can do well. Inzamam is almost as good as Ponting currently in batting.

And he is certainly a better skipper than Ponting, so that leads to me to conclude that he is a better batting/skipper than Ponting.

The reason why I say that Inzamam is a better skipper than Ponting is that they both lead completely different teams. Ponting took over from a great captain -Steve Waugh- who had made the Australian team nearly perfect. Ponting leads a bunch of high class players...Gilchrist, Hayden, McGrath, Warne, etc., etc. They are the ones that are responsible for the success of the Australian team...not the captaincy of Ponting.

Inzamam on the other hand leads a bunch of amateur youngsters. And before Inzamam was made skipper, the Pakistan side had already gone through a lot of twists and turns, so it wasn't easy taking over as captain. He took a Pakistan team that was completely hopeless until he was made captain. He took this bunch of hopeless, amateur youngsters and he turned them into a bunch of hardworking, committed, and collective cricketers. He has made the Pakistan team a top team.

You do realise that the whole "Inzy don't perform and Pakistan Lose" thing is a load of BS.... did they not just Hammer India in the final test with Inzy. And is it just me or is Younis and Mohammed yousef to extremely talented batsmen that Pakistan ALSO seem to rely on a lot...

The whole pressure thing is bull as well saad. If inzy doesn't perform, chances are Younis Kahn, Mohammed Yousif, Salman, or Akmal will, so please don't dribble on about "Inzy knows if he don'st perform they will lose....yada yada yada" because well all know its not true. In the SA series, if ponting didn't perform, chances are SA would have won the 3rd test, maybe even the series....

You also said it's not ponting captaincy thats winning them games, its the other players ??? pfffffffft take ponting out of the game and see how Aust. performs. He is the Greatest ever No.3 in the game... Captaincy is more than just decide to bat/bowl first, and deciding where to position the field. It's also leading by example, it's knowing when to put warne in the attack, or knowing that this batsmen has a weakness against fast short pitched bowling.....

That all being said, i think it's quite clear taht ponting is the best batting skipper atm.

p.s. why is tressy up there ????????? lol i think you will find that Michael Vaughn is the pommie captain

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Ponting is ahead with Inzi at second place and Dravid at Third.

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Surely Ponting is a great captain and a superstar batsman but Inzi also is not left far behind coz his captaincy has really improved from 2004 uptil now and the new name 4 him SHOCK ABSORBER really suits him as he really saves the match in the time of need . He is really a great batsman, an excellent captain and a very very fine human being.

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Yup!

Inzamam is an experienced batsman with a fine record. He is also a fine captain.
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