Twenty20 World Cup Final: India vs Pakistan

Originally posted by scuudz YES!!!   WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!!!

I agree with scuudz. He (shoaib malik) should think before saying anything as there are many muslims  in the indian team too.
There are more muslims in india than in pakistan. that doesn't mean they are necessarily wanting pakistan to win instead of india. Nationality and religion are too separate things - he should understand that.
anyways, a great performance by both countries and great captaincy by both the captains.

Originally posted by BackFoot Master Originally posted by green plane for me Pakistan lost because of 1) M.hafeez drop the catch 2) younis not take responsibilty as a senior player, he was also involved in imran nazir's runout. 3) poor display by pakistani batsman   Kid, just accept the fact that India played very very very well and thats was the different, no younis or hafeez. Why didn't yoy complain about this earlier in the tournament.

Edited by green plane - 26 September 2007 at 4:57pm

Originally posted by kahmad But you have to accept that Pakistan also deserved to win this. It could have easily gone otherway, if Misbah had hold his coolnes to hit the half-volley straight.  In the End there is no place for IFs and excuses. India is World Champion and that is the fact.  For me Pakistan didn't get the Trophy but they proved that they are also the Champions.

I dont think india were the better team in the final. Pakistan were probably the better team throughout the match until the last few overs when they lost a few quick wickets, although how they recovered was pretty amazing, misbah looks like a very good player, hes run chasing has been timed perfectly, alsoconsidering they limited india below 160 fine bwoling from gul. However india held their nerves and came through with the win, very good captaincy by dhoni through out the tournament. 20/20 games can be changed in a matter of a few balls.

I won't get further into the controversy but I am just saying he could use the word people as there can be people from other religions too who might have wanted  Pakistan to win. He should not have singled out one religion as a person living in Pakistan will want Pakistan to win and his religion wouldn't matter.
I don't care about who was the better team as the match was so close neither team had the upper hand throughout the match, sometimes it was India other times it was Pakistan.
What matters for both teams is to carry on their form. If they go on to play good matches on their respective tours, then only getting to final will mean something otherwise it will not count for anything.

Fair enough. 

England Fan, Im not sure how you came to the conclusion that Pakistan was on top for most of the match.  First, 157 was always going to be tricky to chase down in a final.  In the Pakistan innings, India was in the driver's seat after Nazir's run out.  They didn't pace their innings well (they werent allowed to do so due to some good bowling by Pathan and the others in the middle) and were left with too much to do in the last few overs.

Originally posted by scuudz Originally posted by green plane I dont think Shoaib Malik said anything wrong, he was just thanking to all muslims. Actually u people didnot see a interview of him before the final match and in that context he was thanking to all muslims.   Would you explain what on Earth do all the Muslims in the world have to do with the Pakistani cricket team?

I hope India stick with youth from now on. Its youths turn to continue in India cricketing future. Out with the old and in with the new. the youngers can do what the elder can not do any more, the basics of cricket.

Dead right! Trust me, Gambhir, Uthappa and co doesn't have the gut and quality of their trade to replace veterans especially Tendulkar and Dravid - two classy batsman!! Come on, it's two different versions! Uthappa style suits 2020 and 50 overs!

Trust me, I don't think anyone on that selection panel is that nuts to leave out Sachin. Their house will be on fire as soon as the news has been released!

I think that they have to pick the right players now. They need to blend the older players (Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly etc.) with the younger players. This will help develop the younger players phenomenally.

i don't agree, like I said that the oldies not do basics right, so they more likely to lose more matches, Sathchin can run between wickets, but the rest of the oldies can't and that one of the fundamentals of cricket, if u cant score boundaries you have to run well between wickets. Losing matches is not good for youngsters. They need to start fresh and I think they will do fine. They all aq good bunch of lads, and need a chance and the Indian public need to stop putting pressure on them and let them play cricket.

i hope you dont want to compare Pakistan with Bangladesh :)

Yeah absolutely, only time will tell that. I liked the term Kamakaze you've used to describe the tendencies they've shown over the past as it perfectly fits into the context. It's a pefect description of a team who's been used to lose six out of ten wickets just because it's main batsmen can't help themselves trying to pull a short pitched deliveries for a boundary with a trap already set for them. And I am talking of test matches, not the limited over versions. Pefect!

Edited by shan - 28 September 2007 at 10:08am