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RightHandBat
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Topic: WC Semi-FinalsPosted: 17 April 2007 at 11:40am |
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Since the semi finals are around the corner, just thought I'd make a thread for it. Discuss...
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"His classical hits down the ground, met with a checked drive, were Tendulkar at his best. It was though he had a new lease of life." - Sachin Tendulkar's return to cricket with a 91-Ball century.
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Chin Music
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:54pm |
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Australia will beat South Africa, Sri Lanka will beat New Zealand and we'll have a repeat of the 96 final, only with Australia winning. South Africa have had on- and off- days, but even on their best day they won't beat the Aussies, while NZ and SL have both been pretty consistent, SL have been more so, and the pitches have been perfect for them
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Kerm
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 1:09pm |
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I'm still backing England to win. =p
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Sledger
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 1:26pm |
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The reception party is already gathering at Joburg International Kerm - lots of rotten tomatoes awaiting the boys!!
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Kerm
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 1:36pm |
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Heh good to hear, I have a bet on England winning the whole world cup. Blissful ignorance of being an England cricket fan.
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Sledger
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 1:48pm |
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Denial mate , a classic symptom and I'm as culpable as you. Maybe
you'll get better though , sadly , I'm a hopeless case (ask the missus!)
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Kerm
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 1:53pm |
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If anything i'm getting gradually worse, it must be an English thing, expecting your side to win despite there being no real reason why they would or should win... and yet watching every single ball of the beating just in case something special happens... and it very rarely does.
Ah well, whatever happens i'll be here in my ODI shirt cheering along. |
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 2:08pm |
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Must be genetic , maybe we're related !!!
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scuudz
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 6:16pm |
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Guess that means I'm related to Kerm too??!!
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Posted: 17 April 2007 at 6:46pm |
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One big delusional family.
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tonks007
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 2:53am |
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even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days
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143no
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 3:22am |
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Aussie wern't written off by anyone with decent amount of cricket knowledge, just a few young forum experts.
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tonks007
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 3:45am |
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gambler
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Well mark me down as one of those that did....
I must admit to feeling a bit nervous about the Kiwis though. They will be a threat. SL will have a tough semi on their hands here. It could go either way.
SA would have a decent chance against the Aussies if the match was being played on the bouncy Barbados pitch...but I dont give them much hope on a slow St Lucia wicket. Edited by gambler - 18 April 2007 at 5:24am |
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Sledger
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 6:37am |
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Agreed Gambs , the conditions won't be favourable for the South
Africans , but they can still win. If they do it'll be in a high
scoring match - something we haven't seen at all in this
tournament. The other match should be a close affair too , too
tight to call with any confidence at all.
The best four sides have made the semis , so for all the bitching and moaning , the format can't be all wrong. Yes , the thing has taken forever , but we might just have an adrenalin rush over the final three matches. |
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Mojo
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 8:03am |
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To be honest, I don't see SA beating the Aussies, but it's not impossible. If their batsmen all fire on the day, they can be truly devastating, and not even the omnipotent Aussies would be able handle them. But that's a huge IF.
As for the other semi-, I see Sri Lanka topping the Kiwi's yet again. Now before Bond2322 strikes me down for saying that, let me reiterate that it's only a guess based on the previous match in the tournament.
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tonks007
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 8:34am |
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Even if SA's batsmen fire, Australia have a much better batting attack Hayden, Ponting, Clarke, Symonds in top form, Hodge/Watson (both in good touch but not sure who will be picked) while Gilchrist/Hussey are due to fire and McGrath, Bracken, Tait and Hogg all in good form.
If Australia bat first they will definately win and if they bat 2nd they will have a 99% chance of winning.
Their only hope is that Australia have a disasterous day of monumental proportions. The sun may shine on their bums that day! Sri Lanka & NZ on the other hand.....They will have to do it tough to stop the world champions getting 3 in a row.
Boy, i have been wrong before, lets hope this isn't another one of those rare occasions! Edited by tonks007 - 18 April 2007 at 8:37am |
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Mojo
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 9:07am |
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I won't deny that Aussies have an awesome lineup, but I wouldn't say that it's much better than the Proteas. In the context of this tournament, who have been doing better?
Hayden - Smith -> Hayden
Ponting - Kallis -> Kallis
Clarke - Gibbs -> Gibbs
Symonds - Boucher -> Boucher
Watson - Prince -> Watson
Gilchrist - De Villiers -> De Villiers
McGrath - Langeveldt -> McGrath
Bracken - Hall -> ???
Tait - Nel. -> Tait
We don't have an answer for Hogg. Pietersen is nowhere close.
But my point is that SA players have been doing just as well as Aussie players. If they all get it right on the same day, the way the Aussies usually do, they'll put on a good contest.
*Edit* I compared Gilly with AB because they're both opening bats, and Boucher with Symmonds because they're both big-hitters. Edited by Mojo - 18 April 2007 at 10:02am |
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tonks007
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 9:27am |
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Disagree with a fair bit of that Mojo. Kallis better than Ponting??? Boucher better than Symonds??? Watson better than Prince??? And no, South Africa's players have not been doing just as well as the Aussie players. Australia undefeated in 1st, South Africa loses to Bangladesh and NZ and are in 4th so i think that takes that out of the equation.
Wow, that is a very interesting statement.....If all of South Africa's players are on fire and all of the Aussie players have suddenly gone bad, then yes i agree with you but what are the chances of the entire Australia team going to butter?
But that is your opinion and i respect it.
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 9:29am |
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It's not that simple Mojo - the dynamics within a side can't be
measured , neither can confidence. The South Africans at breakfast
today will be a totally different bunch than that that gathered
yesterday. Winning so comprehensively is a major boost and they
have the memory of that beating of Australia last year.
They won't start favourites , but that won't bother them overmuch and they will give it a full go. Australia fear no-one , but they're yet to be really pushed in this competition and they might not look so invulnerable if the South Africans start well. I suspect the South Africans will want to bat first if they win the toss and then post a big score (270-300). They'll back their attack to make life difficult for the Aussie top order and hopefully see some rash shots by the opposition when trying to reduce the required runrate. Aussie crushed SA first time around , I don't think we'll see such a one sided affair next week. |
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I meant purely in the context of this tournament... Kallis has performed much better than Ponting... The other two are touch-and-go.
Tonks, to be honest, I don't expect SA to beat Australia. But to be fair to them, they're not a totally trash side. They've beaten a fully fit Aussie side on numerous occasions. The Aussies are the better side on paper, but very few teams can put down the Proteas when they're playing at their best.
Of course, all remains to be seen whether or not they actually do play at their best.
I meant as individuals, not the team as a whole. SA's key to winning is to have all their players firing together, which sadly hasn't been the case so far in this tournament. Edited by Mojo - 18 April 2007 at 9:42am |
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I know what you mean, Sledger, but my point in doing that was simply to show that the SA players have been putting in some pretty decent performances. That's all.
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 4:04pm |
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Kallis performed much better than Ponting? Give it a rest. What a ridiculous thing to say. Kallis has made runs but often in doing so he has made them so slowly his team has wound up in trouble. Ask any captain in the world cup who's performances they would take out of Ponting and Kallis and they would take Ponting without thinking twice.
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Posted: 18 April 2007 at 7:26pm |
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I don't know why I fell like this but I have a gut feeling that the final would be NZ Vs SA.
Hope i'm wrong :-)
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"They've got everything covered," said Johnston. "They've got pace, [Brad] Hogg is bowling well, and if [Shane] Watson comes back that balances them perfectly - he's crucial to them I believe. And their top order is fantastic. But New Zealand look pretty good with [Shane] Bond, and they have got two good spinners and guys that bat and bowl in the middle order. South Africa look dangerous as well and can be pretty awesome on their day. But in my opinion, it'll be Australia and Sri Lanka in the final."
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Sri Lanka to win the WORLD CUP 07
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Posted: 19 April 2007 at 5:05am |
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I prefered the team we have been playing, I just don't rate watson.
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Posted: 19 April 2007 at 6:29am |
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Hogg's place must be secure and Hodge brings steel to the lower
order (batting at 7 !!) as well as terrific fielding. Watson's not
needed , he won't get a place at the top of the order now that Hayden's
in such great form and the bowlers are taking 10 wickets in each match
- why change at all?
Have to say I think Hogg's looked on as the journeyman of the side - he much , much better than that. |
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If I was an Aussie, my concern would be with Tait at the moment. Fast he may be, but he just doesn't look dangerous. He's being taken apart by everyone.
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He's got wickets, but expensively. He's no Lee but he'll do.
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I agree , he's a wicket taker and has justified his selection . He'll
always go for runs , as Lee does , I don't think they'll ever play in
the same side though , that's a too run friendly selection.
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