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    Posted: 19 November 2005 at 4:18am

i think teams like south africa and england will resent that statement, they are certainly not weak...in fact it wasn't too long ago when South Africa posed a significant threat to Australia's top spot, and the Australians fought them off. Bowlers like pollock and donald formed strong attacks.

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yea, but today every team has only one big star or maybe a couple. Back in the 80s every team had not just one player to rely on, they had bowlers, batters, and all-rounders. For example, in 1988 Pakistan had Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Wasim Akram, and Waqar Younis. This made it harder for the West Indies of the 80s to remain the best...there was so much competition.
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i see your point of view, but the fact still remains that Pollock and Donald never really put Australia under pressure compared to their efforts versus other teams. the aussies during their dominance so far have had t relatively easy, but it has indeed changed during the last year and a half with teams like england able to have bowlers who can execute plans. 
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It has changed during the last few years because it is quite obvious that the australian dominance will end in about 2 or at the most 3 more years. Before, when Steve Waugh was captain, they were the world's best and there was no doubt about it. Now they can be compared to SA in ODIs and England in Tests.

The West Indies of the 80s were never the only team with great players in the 80s. As I already mentioned other teams had a lot of great players as well which made it harder for the West Indies of the 80s to stay at the top in International cricket. Which is why the West Indies of the 80s are better than the Aussies of today.
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i want to know then who do you think will be the next cricket 'super power' when the aussies fall.
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England or South Africa.
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south africa doesnt o it for me anymore, so i dont really see it as them. england definately. the others have to jostle it out.
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England will definetely be the best team in Tests and SA will be the best in ODIs.
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south africa neither in tests nor ODI's. they have alot of work to do. i think the edge remains with sri lanka or india at the moment.
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Yea, india probably have a chance of becoming the best team in ODIs. What do you think about Pakistan becoming the best team in ODIs?
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pakistan need to get themselves together first. to many stop start performances.
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Yea, that's right. Pakistan do need to perform consistently and win consistently to be known as the best ODI team.
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Still, arent pakistan the best inconsistant team in the world? No one can beat that
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Ha ha, very funny...

Pakistan are not that inconsistent in ODIs. This year they beat India in the ODI series in India and followed that up with a white washing against West Indies in West Indies. That was a great performance by Pakistan.

I will admit that they are probably one of the most inconsistent teams in tests. They win some and lose some. They are not consistent.
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We'll see this summer if South Africa can take it up to the Aussies

Definately England have a good chance of becoming the dominant team.

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Yea, there is no doubt that England are going to be the best in tests, and as for ODIs, SA have the best chances. they are a young team and have some experienced players and a lot of talent.
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i agree. let's see what happens on the field
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at times i feel so sorry for inzamam, he tries so hard and at times it's difficult to get enough support from the others. and what's up with yousuf youhana changing is name around.
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Can you clarify what you mean by "inzamam tries so hard and at times it's difficult to get enough support from the others."

Yousuf Youhana has changed his name to Mohammad Yousuf because he has converted to Islam. He is a Muslim and so he needed to change his name.

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wat i meant was that he works hard on the field. and that change of religions to me hasnt helped him as yet. should have just kept to his original name.
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Some people are saying Mohammad Yousuf became muslim because he was afraid that if he remained christian, the Pakistan cricket board wouldn't make him captain after Inzamam is gone based on the fact that he is christian. But others say that's just a rumor and it's false. I, personally believe it's false.
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