West Indies in Bangladesh (2011)

Sam's optimism is refreshing but hardly justified....
.... Bangladesh have made almost no progress nor produced any truly noteworthy talent besides Shakib al Hasan. Zimbabwe have had Houghton, the Flower brothers, Johnson, Goodwin, Streak, Taylor and a few others who are truly international class.

I'm not sure about Mahmudullah   - is he a spinner or a batsman? His role in the side is weird, he should stick to one discipline and see because a bits and pieces cricketer is not really someone you could call immensely talented. Not until he becomes a genuine all rounder anyway.

Mortaza is rubbish. His test record is abysmal and he can't stay fit. All good fast bowlers are durable and have sufficient stamina to sustain long spells. The very reason why Akhtar will never be considered a great. He played 40 tests over 13 years and that's pathetic. Mortaza falls in the same boat, his body has fallen apart and I can't see him making a Watson-esque resurgence.

Razzak is a chucker, I'm not going to comment on his talent of javelin throwing. While Nafees and Junaid haven't played consistently enough to be labelled as 'immensely talented'.

Yes Sam Mahmudullah is very talented but the problem is just like Milky said he has no role in the side he looks lost and the biggest problem i see for BD is they have too many bits and pieces player in just 1 team which is why players like Mahmudullah and Nasir are getting wasted when they are far more talented than Ashraful and Mortaza was very good in start but he lost it after so many injuries and now he is no where near a bowler he was when he started playing. Nafees and Junaid are test type players and are no use in Odi's should play more test matches.

Simmons is a gem, I think he has more talent then his uncle Phil - although I've only seen footage of Phil, he was a bit before my time. Samuels looks in fine form, but how will he fair against better opposition?

Mahmudullah looks very decent with the bat, I think he should focus on his batting because he'll always find a spot as a batsman in the BD side, whereas a spinners spot is harder to come by. He's better off with doing what Samarraweera is doing. I think he has enough ability to average 30+ which is decent for a BD player.

Phil Simmons wasn't much to write about - he use to hit the ball quite hard, but that's about it.  Simmons has been in very good form for West Indies - before, he use to try and bat but now he has realised that attacking is the way he is suppose to be playing.  He did bat slowly today but usually he's very flamboyant. 

But Windies are in trouble with Simmons, they didn't offer him a retainer contract and the word is that the IPL folks has an eye on Simmons.  Next year should be interesting, as the IPL clashes with Windies Tours.

Spinny that will happen every year because a 2 month long IPL (for God's sake, longer than the World Cup!!!) will always clash with WI cricket season, you can't play your second string side every year for your home series, something should be done about this, and please give me a break, IPL for 2 months is UNBELIEVABLE! Have mercy on us!

Originally posted by sam_ahmed Spinny that will happen every year because a 2 month long IPL (for God's sake, longer than the World Cup!!!) will always clash with WI cricket season, you can't play your second string side every year for your home series, something should be done about this, and please give me a break, IPL for 2 months is UNBELIEVABLE! Have mercy on us! At the moment the India - Pakistan series is definitely ruled out because there is no window for that to happen, India return from Australia in 2nd week of march and there is no way you can have a series in the remaining 20 days, Unless they decide to split the series into two halves and play the ODI's in 2012 and the Test's in 2013.

Really the interests has been lost i love cricket and do even watch NZ-ZIM matches but really IPL gives me nothing to look for.  Just so boring nothing like cricket there. If you remove IPL we can have a wonderful India-Pak series in 2 months of 5 test and 3 Odi's matches but sadly that wont happen.

I dont know about WI but i'm sure most Australian players would prefer to play their international matches than IPL.

Windies players get paid alright mate, don't let anyone fool you otherwise but whenever there is more money, West Indians are always tempted to go there.  Gayle wanted the WICB to buy out his US$800,000 contract from the IPL in order for him to represent West Indies - yet he comes out saying that he wants to play for West Indies. Chris isn't fooling me, his heart is wherever the bigger dollars is.

Gayle don't have to worry about money.  He was sure to pocket about US$400,000 (although there were years when he went way past that) a year playing for West Indies, which is magnificent for wages for a West Indian resident.  Gayle, as long as stayed out of trouble with management, was always a sure pick in the side so if he really loved West Indies Cricket, he wouldn't be wanting the board to buy out his IPL contract for him to play for them.

Windies 61-all out!! The funny game called cricket!!! We just can't rule out anything in this game.

Good win for BD hope they continue their good form in Test matches.

I hope they give a WI good fight in test matches. Rahim and Shakib should bat at 3,4 they are their best players and one funny news is that Ashraful says he wasn't given a fair chance by selectors. I want him to be banned for 1 years for that comment PLEASE!!!


Edited by mystery - 20 October 2011 at 10:29pm

Darren Sammy, as much as I like the bloke, is wasting a spot in the XI. He's a nothing bowling, forget his statistics, you can't keep Roach out of the side on his account. Plus Roach has a good record against BD, they can't handle his style of bowling, in general and he's the kind of guy you need in the side.

BD are grinding it out here, but again no one is going on to make a ton. Always making starts but not converting them to 100s and that's a worry for BD. This Windies side looks depleted without Gayle, Dwayne Bravo and Roach.

after 2 days getting washed out BAN come up as the superior side on day 4, scoring 350/9 dec ... don't know when was the last time BAN eclared their innings!!! and then getting 5 Westindian wickets for just 144.