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    Posted: 08 June 2012 at 8:48am
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - bloody English summer !!!!!!!!!!!!Angry
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Wow, Windies have named a very good squad for the limited overs leg to England.  Gayle and Lendl Simmons is back.  Simmons seem to still be in good form after coming back from injury, smashing a quick fire 50 against India A.  England's bowling will have to be spot on during those games, a lot of fire power in that side with Gayle, Simmons, Dwayne Smith, Sammy, Russell, Pollard, Dwayne Bravo.

God save the English Bowlers, looking at tat batting line up, threads will come out of the ball in no time.

Delighted to see Gayle back!!!
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr - bloody English summer !!!!!!!!!!!!Angry

... and here in my city we're into the 2nd week of Monsoon season and not a drop of Rain has fallen so far... even the bore-wells have dried up... we normally get fair rainfall, don't know what's wrong this time Unhappy, won't mind if ENG can give some of their rain to us!


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Post Options Post Options   Quote spin wizard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2012 at 12:04am
Sam, weather patterns around the world have gone off target.  There is no longer a dry season in the West Indies.  It rained throughout the whole dry season.  One Island where we play T20 cricket, the pitch has been damp on every saturday due to all the unusual rain during the week.  For the last few seasons, the Hurricane season has been quite generous to us.  Not as much rain/storms as people expected.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2012 at 9:10am
you are absolutely right spinny, we got unusual thunderstorms throughout the month of April and now the monsoons are taking a very different path as compared to normal.

Coming to the game, well I dearly hope we see some cricket today although three days may not be enough to force a result in this game, I'd like to see the captains go for some aggressive declarations should we have play on the remaining 3 days. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sledger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2012 at 7:58am
No posts on the carnage from yesterday !  You either love or hate Tino Best , but you can never ignore him!  He's arrogant and yesterday drove the English attack crazy. In fairness , he played some splendid shots , especially down the ground. Why they decided to bowl short was mystifying and allowing him and Ramdin to put on almost 150 for the final wicket was seriously annoying. Twas a pity that Best didn't crack three figures , but 95 after having a top test score of only 27 was mightily impressive.
                  One day to go and the Windies have an outside chance of a stunning victory. Realistically England should get the 51 needed to avoid the follow on - but daft things have happened already in this match!

                   Maybe Flower and company will think twice about leaving out their two best bowlers in future. Well done to the visitors , that decision by Flower smacked of arrogance and could yet come back to haunt them.


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Surprising last wicket partnership, but pleasing from a Windian point of view.  Ramdin turned it sour with that note.  What would happen if he doesn't make another ton for 3 years (which is a custom for him)??

Anyhow, Windies played a lot better on this tour than I think most expected.  They definitely did a better job than India did.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2012 at 7:26pm
I have always maintained that Ramdin is a fine talent, I don't know what the issue was and why he was out of the team for so long, because this lad always had the ability to play big knocks. That note was unnecessary though, but then I think he got a little carried away.

Best played well but whatever chances WI had were rained off today, what is pleasing though is that now with Gayle back the WI line up for the ODI's looks stunning, this appears to be a very very formidable side now, 3-0 to WI in the ODI's, I won't be surprised at all.
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So much for the the much hyped Windies batting line up !  No Gayle , but the rest played and were easily dealt with by the English attack. Darren Bravo's injury didn't help either , but the win was a comprehensive one.  A brilliant hundred from Ian Bell silenced the KP fans and Tim Bresnan's 4 wickets showed his worth. England played a 5 man test attack whilst the Windies left out their quicks in favour of trundling all rounders.  It reminded me of England in bygone days where we couldn't restrict even the most average of batting line ups and shows that potent attacks is the way to go.
             I'm sure the Windies will be hoping gayle makes it for tomorrow and they'll field a better attack , even at the expense of depth in the batting.  No reason for England to change anything - this was a comprehensive win.
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Sledger, place was cold, Windies will never win in these sort of conditions.  I'll excuse them for this one. Wink 
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WI do have a very attacking batting line up, ENG played well in their conditions but I still believe WI have it in them to win the series, Gayle is very crucial to their chances though, even if he doesn't score runs, I think psychologically it'll give them tremendous confidence.  
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Darren Bravo goes back home, no big loss really, wasn't in the best of form.  In a way, i'm happy, as it meant that Lendl Simmons can get another chance to continue his good form before he got injured.
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So the Oval today and I'm hoping to see the rope tight up against the boards as they were in Hampshire.  I don't see it as a method to restrict the Windies big hitters (the ropes are about 85 yards back and they clear 100 quite easily) , but a return to how cricket was played before T20 came to be.  Seeing the rope some 20-odd yards in is just wrong - use the entire ground and watch class players turn 1's into 2's and 2's into 3's with fine placement Bell was masterly doing just that on Saturday.
                It's a big ground and usually high scoring - should be worth watching today with rain unlikely to intervene.
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Foremost the ODI series, the Poms will have a large quantity of self-belief with them as they played out of their skins. One can be unsure that the calculation of KP Pietersen went grand with according to his motto, posted on twitter; he said “Hope Cookie & the boys go one up today!! Hope Belly is fit & collects the MOM at end of game!! Good luck guys.”

Having a dreadful test team, the table-toppers of T20 cricket and Test cricket have a very physically powerful and unquestionable team in the 50-over layout of the game too. Their assurance will be sky-high as they showed proven performance in the 1st ODI. Well, it was certainly a faultless comeback from the player. Be expecting the ‘Gayle Storm’ to pull through quickly and damage his enemy. The bowling of both the teams looks high-quality, even though the Calypso kings unsuccessful to betray the rulers of Test Cricket. Ravi Rampaul has the capacity to move the ball vigorous as he gave a dazzling start before Ian Bell rang the bells of the West Indian cricket team. Dwayne Bravo also provided fine start but Ian Bell blew gone the impatience of the bowlers. Andre Russell, although gave a load of runs and will look to get better himself. The batting looks wounded with Lendl Simmons and all others batsmen too failed to carry out with liability excluding Dwayne Smith who although tried to take some responsibility but also fail.

The batting at one stage fell like a house of matchsticks, although both teams are in search of wins as it will be a great contest to watch.

Prediction: Expect the West Indies to fight back and square the series 1-1



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After some Gayle fireworks early on the West Indies surrendered meekly, Good partnership between Bravo and Pollard but the English achieved the target easily.

Disappointing result for the WI< they were at least considered to put up a far better performance in the ODI's but so far it has been nothing much of note. 

One reason why England are doing so well in the ODI's now is there Opening combinations, The century by Cook today is the 6th consecutive hundred by an England Opener in ODI's... something for teams like Pakistan to learn from... openers need to be world class... you simply won't win otherwise.
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Openers are always vital to top teams.  Australia had Hayden/Langer in tests, Hayden/Gilchrist in ODI's.  SA had Kirsten/Gibbs, Smith/Gibbs and other good combination which is why they've always managed to be a top team for over a decade now.  England got Strauss/Cook in tests, India Sehwag/Gambhir in Tests, Sehwag/Tendulkar/Gambhir ODI's.  Simply put, all the teams that are in the bottom half of the table only have one or no good openers.  Pakistan once had Younus, Yousuf and Inzimam in the middle, but couldn't crack the top 3 rankings.  It's also why I always credit a lot of India's rise to #1 to the contribution of Gautum Gambhir.  Sehwag was always good in tests, but having guys like Chopra, Jaffer etc meant Dravid/Laxman was always in too early.
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After the Gayle whirlwind the Windies looked pretty toothless on what was a perfect batting track.  238 was always 50 runs short , Cook didn't have to get out of 2nd gear - it was an impressive allround performance from the home team. Using the test attack is working - at no time were the Windies batsmen served up any dross. The final match could well see a Windies win though , with Bresnan , Broad and Swann getting the day off.
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Yes with many top players rested, WI may win the last ODI and will have a good chance in the T20 too as all they'll need is any two of their many big hitters to come good, which is why I consider them to be Red Hot favorites for the WT20 later this year.

The good thing spinny is that the WI are on the right track now, Gayle and Simmons is a good opening pair and I think this team is going to cause some serious damage in the days to come, no doubting that... it's just a matter of time.

One thing is for sure though, beating ENG in ENG is one hell of a task, Pakistan found that in 2010, India found that in 2011, WI found that recently, now can the South Africans match them shot for shot? I think, Yes.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sam_ahmed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 June 2012 at 5:11pm
Very very good knock by Hales, great find for ENgland in T20's at least. WI lose again but they looked dangerous, some heavy hitting in that game, I refuse to lose hope in this team, I think in Sri Lankan conditions they be much more dangerous, esp that their bowlers will back their batsmen there... WT20 and I still back WI to be the favorites.
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West Indies biggest problem for all of the English tour, is that # 1 - 4 in that batting line up hasn't contributed much.  I reckon 80% of their runs came from # 5 - 8.
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