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GreenCap 
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 Topic: World Cup PredictionsPosted: 19 February 2007 at 11:49am |
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As far as i know, each team in super 8 will play six matches, (one match it has already won or lost). So the points will be carried like this:-
If WI win, they will enter super 8 with 4 points (or whatever points for a single win). If they win all 6 matches of super8, they will end up with 24+4=28 points. If pak lose the opener, they will enter the super8 with 0 points, no matter they have beaten zim and ireland. So they are already one match down in super8. Please tell me if i'm wrong!!! |
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Mojo
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Posted: 19 February 2007 at 1:19pm |
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You're not wrong. (by the way, I think it's 2 points for a win)
But the team will be taking in points from 1 game, and adding points from a further 6 games. That means no team is guaranteed a semi-final place, no matter how good their points are, coming into the Super 8.
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GreenCap
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 12:34pm |
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That means no team is guaranteed a semi-final place, no matter how good their points are, coming into the Super 8. [/QUOTE]For how many times you have seen the finalists of a tri-nation series being decided on the basis of Net run-rate??? Same could be the situation here, even run rate could be a cruicial factor, not to talk about the advantage of points obtained from one victory!!! |
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Superbokkie
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 2:40pm |
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To fairly predict the winner of the 2007 World Cup I am going to run through the likely scenarios.
I believe South Africa will win the most games, coming into the World Cup as probably the form team. That includes a win over Australia who have serious bowling issues and injury worries.
I think India and Pakistan will probably finish second and third respectively. Both will lose to South Africa and perhaps one or two other teams, but will finish with equal points and be separated on runrate.
The fourth place will be most closely contested. Australia will be in the running, but if New Zealand can beat them again in the World Cup and they lose too many matches, they will be out. Sri Lanka will also be a hot contender for fourth. On current form I pick NZ to make it.
England and West Indies have little hope. One or two upset wins might impact on who makes the semifinals in what order, but I cannot see these two teams winning more than 3 games and qualifying for the semis.
1st Semifinal: SA v NZ
South Africa to win at a canter. New Zealand are a good team but they blow hot and cold - they lost 6 out of 8 CB Series matches before beating Australia 3-0 (at home, and a depleted Australia at that).
2nd Semifinal: India v Pakistan
A classic match with tension, crowd friction and high drama. I expect Pakistan to make it through thanks to Mohammad Yousuf's superb current form, Afridi's explosiveness and Asif's wicket taking ability.
Final: SA v Pakistan
I pick Pakistan to fold as they so often do when it counts. For once, South Africa should (and I say, should), have the mental strength to stand firm. With Pollock in the best form of his life, Kallis back as a genuine wicket-taking all-rounder, Smith, de Villiers and Gibbs rounding out a powerful top-order, Boucher and Kemp providing explosive run-scoring options and Langeveldt, Nel and Ntini a formidable bowling combo, South Africa have it all. No spinner won't affect them. They are the hot favourites, in my mind.
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daisy77
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Posted: 20 February 2007 at 2:41pm |
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Well the point system seems a little complicated........I don't know how good it will be for net run rate to come into play because each match situation is different therefore, the required run rate will also be different and it just may not be neccesary to hit out in order to win in some situations. |
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Mojo
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Posted: 21 February 2007 at 7:30am |
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Nett run rate only comes into play if two or more of the top 4 teams are equal on points after the conclusion of the Super 8. Just keep that in mind.
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GreenCap
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Posted: 21 February 2007 at 8:20am |
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Considering that SA and Aus are good enough to win all 6 matches of their super8, the remaining teams are Pak, Ind, Sri Lanka, NZ, Eng and WI. Quite possible for any two or three of these to have equal points at the end of super8.
So very important for these sides to maintain a good net run rate as well as enter the super8 with one victory under the belt. For those who think victory of first round is not important, It is always good to enter a competetion with at least 14.5% of your job done!!! |
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GreenCap
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Posted: 21 February 2007 at 8:56am |
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Well no more bothering on run rate or first round victory. My predictions are
Aus and SA comfortably through to semis Any two of Pak, India and Sri Lanka. Final: SA vs any asian side Winner can be anyone, of course!!! |
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ukki
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Posted: 22 February 2007 at 5:57am |
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Freddie, i think you are being a bit optimistic & patriotic towards england.... lack of steady bowlers, no good spinners & over dependence on Pietersen & flintoff does not take them anywhwere.... Also SA might be second favs.... i do not see them as any threats in Windies.
for me the countries which can adapt to slow & low pitches in West indies will reach the semis.....
West Indies surely is in, with India being the other one.... Aussies whatever from they are in they will come back hard @ reach semis for sure....
so the fourth spot for me should go NZ on current from & looking at Pakis instability abt their seamers. SL might create a stir or so.. but won bet on them
So SF line up
team 1 - Australia v/s Team 4 - WI
team 2 - India v/s Team 3 - NZ
Final - WI - INDIA ( may be ..... not 100 % , its the day that matters )
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Titan
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Posted: 22 February 2007 at 12:48pm |
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At this stage any one of the top 8 teams can make it, to the semis.
It is very difficult to claim who will win it!The aussies have lost 5 in a row, and they have to be low on confidence after that. They have also possibly lost a few key players to injury, Brett Lee and Symonds.
Nevertheless here goes my predictions:
Semis:
SA vs Eng
I hope SA makes the semis, they defnitely shown the ability to make it.
They have unfortunately "CHOKED" on so many occasions in the past, I just believe maybe this time will be different. They have played the same eleven most of the time in the last two years, and I hope the experience of playing as a squad will take them through.
I chose England because they have improved dramatically, with KP back , they will even be beter.
2nd Semi Sri Lanka vs Aus
Sri Lanka have performed well over the last four years, they have a very well balanced team, their key players will be Sangakarra,Muri, Vaas and Jayawardene.
Aus will finish third in the super sixes, I believe that recent results will have some effect on their performances.
Final
SA vs Sri Lanka
SA to win
Close match
Player of the tournament:Ross Taylor, AB de Villiers, Shaun Pollock.
Suprise Package:Ireland
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I saw into the future - Ashes 2009 England 3 Australia 1!
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daisy77
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Posted: 23 February 2007 at 7:53pm |
Ok thanks for telling me.
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daisy77
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Posted: 23 February 2007 at 7:57pm |
You could see the windies beating the aussies...wow....that's good confidence!!!! I think they can do it too.
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venjen
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Posted: 28 February 2007 at 11:24am |
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Semies- SriLanka, Australiya, India, South Africa
Australia- they have the habit of delivering when its really matters & know how it feels like been champions.
Sri Lanka- has the most balanced side in the competition.
India- They have the batting to do it
South Africa- more than anything they are the in form team. but not have really been tested recently.
After that its anyone's game.
 but if sri lanka & Australia get it right they can easily go in to the finals over Indians & South African.Edited by venjen - 28 February 2007 at 11:31am |
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daisy77
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Posted: 01 March 2007 at 12:27am |
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Yeah with the form SA is in at present it won't be surprising if they do make it to the finals....
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Posted: 01 March 2007 at 10:24am |
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othr than pak and england from super 8 all 6 can make into the finals....it will be such an interesting event..this world cup
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bondy
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Posted: 01 March 2007 at 10:38am |
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Your right, I was talking to someone the other day and we discussed who we thought would win the tournament and got no where.
I'd argee that SA are a chance, Sri Lanka and the everpresent Australians.
Outsiders include NZ, West Indies and India though I cannot see any of these sides winning it. This tournament is thorough; the best team will win.
My prediction SA v Australia/Sri Lanka final.
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Good one Graham!
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venjen
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Posted: 02 March 2007 at 3:26am |
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Thats verry much spot on mate, India also can pullup an upset if they come to the semise anyway they need their two main spinners to get it right.
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bondy
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Posted: 02 March 2007 at 3:49am |
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Indeed they do, a bit weak on the bowling side and like someone posted earlier their batsman are either on fire or plain average. Consistency will be key, and they do not possess it unlike SA and Australia. |
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Good one Graham!
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Siddi
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Posted: 02 March 2007 at 11:59am |
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India V England Final. Either will win. To be honest this came to me in a dream and I am quite a spiritual person. And there are some substantive reasons as well. Incidentally, my heart is with both these teams as well. So its all good.
SA and Australia, big guns, but they will fall. South Africa never deliver when it matters and they have the worst luck when it comes to the World Cup. Ozzie domination is over and I am very convinced that they are going the old, invincible Windies way.
All in all, very open world cup. Like all the top 8 really. Pak, SL, Windies, and especially NZ. But England I think are peaking at the right time and with Pieterson/Vaughan back, they will deliver, Ashes style (you know which ashes I am talking about Ozzies, so dont you *******). And India read like a dream on paper and will probably climb that mountain yet again, get in the final, and maybe get some more out of it. Don't be fooled by their away record, past instances of crumbling under pressure, bad run last year, bad record in WI et al. They are very dangerous.
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BOBBI
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Posted: 02 March 2007 at 2:53pm |
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I still fnd it hard to count the aussies out. Lee will hurt more than any other player as McGrath is past his best apart from Bracken whom I believe with Pollock to the best at the minute, there is no support. If Australia is to function they will need heroics like we saw from Symonds and Bichel last time. Cameron White and Shane Watson could cement their names for the next decade should they perform.
Sri Lanka, Windies and Kenya for the finals. Hey Kenya did it last time???
I think as much as SA are the highest ranked team, they rely on strong powerful strikers late in the innings like Kemp and especially Boucher. In the West Indies, big hitters are not as important because a mis hit will clear these fences. Size of grounds will bring SA right back and I still doubt the mental hold the Aussies have on them.
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daisy77
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Posted: 03 March 2007 at 9:33pm |
England??? You don't think that England can make it into the finals???
 They played good ODI cricket against the Aussies recently. I don't mean this to be offensive but it really is not right to classify England with Pakistan. I think England are a good squad for the world cup and if they could beat australia in their last few odi matches that they played recently then they can do it again and they can make it to the finals. |
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venjen
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Posted: 05 March 2007 at 5:52am |
Nex time be more rational on what you are saying
. If One or two wins means peaking at the right time every one in their peak. |
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Siddi
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Posted: 06 March 2007 at 4:00am |
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Sri Lanka definitely won't win with chuckers like Muralidharan and Malinga. I hate the team. |
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bondy
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Posted: 06 March 2007 at 4:21am |
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They still might make it with chuckers like Murli and Malinga. It does not matter if you hate them, they're a good side. Take your prejudice somewhere else please.
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Good one Graham!
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Siddi
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Posted: 06 March 2007 at 6:05am |
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I guess I was a bit abrupt and blunt there with the SL remark but I don't like a team which thrives on chuckers. And no, they don't have a chance, thats my opinion; thank you very much. |
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Posted: 06 March 2007 at 6:25am |
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Malinga does not chuck! His slingy action is hard on the
eye , but is perfectly fair. Murali has been cleared and that's the end
of the matter.
Let's not let this thread drift into a chuckers one though - stick to topic please. |
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Posted: 06 March 2007 at 7:01am |
Keep ur personal sicknesses undisclosed
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GreenCap
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Posted: 06 March 2007 at 7:07am |
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Sri Lanka definitely have a chance of winning this time. They have a strong side and many talented players.
I think personal hatered for someone must not be publicaly revealed in this forum. |
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bondy
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Posted: 06 March 2007 at 8:30am |
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They won't win.
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Good one Graham!
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Siddi
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Posted: 06 March 2007 at 8:37am |
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I withdraw my comments and apologize. The guy I was addressing them to seems to have been suspended from this forum. So i better keep my mouth shut. Anyways SL dont have a chance at all.
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