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Mojo
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Topic: World's bests Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:12pm |
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It's like saying that Ronaldinho is a useless football player because he can't play goalie.
That's what I call a load of tosh.
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bondy
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:30pm |
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Don't sweat it Mojo. W.G' takes everything literally; he is correct in defining the word cricketer as meaning one who plays cricket, Bradman being only a batsman- but for god sakes, he knew what we meant.
Edited by bondy - 13 September 2007 at 12:47pm
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Good one Graham!
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Mojo
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:42pm |
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I know, Bondy... I'm also being a bit of a nut, I suppose. No offense intended, W.G. We're all entitled to our opinions. I need to read my disclaimer sometimes.
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bondy
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:47pm |
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Where have you been anyway mate?
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Good one Graham!
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Mojo
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 12:50pm |
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I mostly make cameo appearances for world cups. SA hasn't had much cricket in between the two tournaments, so I've been away.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 8:08pm |
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You have very good points mojo but tell me this, who is the better player, Bracken or Lee? Lets just base this one on ODI's!
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In troubled times, being philosophical helps a great deal, it helps you to remain sane and not do any further damage.
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samhache
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 9:03pm |
W.G...I hope you read what they've been saying. A point to note is that, Bradman also has an 'aura' that surrounded him, as many of sports greats do. The likes of Muhammad Ali, Jack Nicklaus, Pele etc and even some of the modern sportsmen such as Tiger Woods, Sachin tendulkar and Roger federer, they all have in common a certain presence about them which is what defines their greatness in sport history.
Secondly, his freakish average of 99ish is wayy above anybody else who has or is playing cricket and to have scored as many centuries as he did for such a little amount of tests played only emphasises his talent with the bat in hand.
Edited by samhache - 13 September 2007 at 9:07pm
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Warriors!!
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spin wizard
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 9:45pm |
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Don't get me wrong fellas, but I'm not trying to say that someone who does 2 arts is better than a person who does one. For instance, never will I say that Flintoff is a better player than the little master.
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 13 September 2007 at 11:09pm |
Because it's the fact ah.
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green plane
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Posted: 14 September 2007 at 7:21am |
Australia: Bradman
Bangladesh: Athar Ali Khan
England: Botham
India: Tendulkar
Newzealand: Hadlee
Pakistan: Imran/ Miandad
South Africa: Pollock
Srilanka : Murali
West Indies: Viv Richards
Zimbabwe: Andy flower/ Streak
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Mojo
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Posted: 14 September 2007 at 9:00am |
Originally posted by spin wizard
You have very good points mojo but tell me this, who is the better player, Bracken or Lee? Lets just base this one on ODI's! |
That's a tough one... Lee's got the speed and the advantage over batting, but Bracken's got more consistency with bowling and economy. In an ODI, I might choose to go with Bracken, if I were forced to choose between the two.
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spin wizard
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Posted: 14 September 2007 at 3:06pm |
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You see, I guess you had it a bit tough with that one. Although I think Bracken's bowling is better than Lee in ODI's, I think Lee is the better player as he can bat better and field better than Bracken. But yeah, we all have our own preferences.
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cricketchampion
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Posted: 15 September 2007 at 1:16pm |
Australia: Ponting
Bangladesh: M. ashraful
England: Graham Gooch
West Indies: Sir Garfield Sobers
New Zealand: S Flemming
India: Kapil Dev Pakistan: Imran Khan Sri Lanka: A Ranatunga S Africa: H Gibbs Canada: Davidson Holland: Lefebreve (or something like that) Bermuda: (That fat guy!)
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Dan Can
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Posted: 15 September 2007 at 1:19pm |
Bermuda: Dwanye Leverock
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"Catches win Matches"
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top-of-off
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Posted: 15 September 2007 at 2:34pm |
Originally posted by cricketchampion
Australia: Ponting
Bangladesh: M. ashraful
England: Graham Gooch
West Indies: Sir Garfield Sobers
New Zealand: S Flemming
India: Kapil Dev Pakistan: Imran Khan Sri Lanka: A Ranatunga S Africa: H Gibbs Canada: Davidson Holland: Lefebreve (or something like that) Bermuda: (That fat guy!)

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no offence but you knoiw nothing about cricket
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 16 September 2007 at 9:31pm |
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Do you.
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Posted: 17 September 2007 at 4:53pm |
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...yes do you. I'm guessing he's saying these are the best ever players to play for their country. If so, that is a load of waffle.
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 17 September 2007 at 9:14pm |
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True, it's a load of waffe and maybe his favourite players too.
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Sledger
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Posted: 18 September 2007 at 6:17am |
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I'm getting tired of the backbiting. For the umpteenth time ,
people's opinions are just that and should be respected.
The best cricketer in the world cannot be proven. The
fastest sprinter can be named by millions - simply because he has run
faster than any other man.
Being the highest individual runscorer or highest wicket
taker doesn't qualify one for the title of the best - that's accepted
by most knowledgeable cricket followers.
What can be derived from
past matches is the input of certain individuals over a sustained
period - when those deeds are exceptional it's fair to call that player
a great - but that is all.
Edited by Sledger - 18 September 2007 at 6:18am
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Mojo
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Posted: 18 September 2007 at 8:08am |
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That's true. Everyone has their own opinion, and not everyone has had the opportunity of watching players like Richard Hadlee or Graeme Pollock or Sunil Gavaskar in action.
Allow people to exercise their opinions. If you can't understand why they'd choose a certain someone, then it's better to ask for their reasons than to insult their knowledge.
Edited by Mojo - 18 September 2007 at 8:09am
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Sledger
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Posted: 18 September 2007 at 8:21am |
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Spot on. We used to have a mad Ashley Giles fan on here - he
really thought Gilo was brilliant. No harm in that , but he copped some
flak.
The important thing was that no-one could dampen his enthusiasm for his favourite player and I admired that.
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Mental disintegration works for me !!
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Posted: 18 September 2007 at 7:02pm |
like me and ramps
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samhache
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Posted: 19 September 2007 at 1:47am |
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Ramprakash is better than Giles.
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Warriors!!
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143no
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Posted: 19 September 2007 at 7:11am |
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at what?
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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slogger72N/O
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Posted: 19 September 2007 at 7:22am |
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samhache
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Posted: 19 September 2007 at 9:29am |
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Yeah, dancing.
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Posted: 19 September 2007 at 8:20pm |
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well yeah, hes better than Giles at everything except the flighted toppie.
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samhache
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Posted: 20 September 2007 at 2:33am |
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I meant as a player in general. I dont really know too much about the guy, but from the way everyone loves him on here, it seems that he is god.
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Warriors!!
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143no
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Posted: 20 September 2007 at 11:45am |
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A few old poms isn't everyone sam.
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Monkey see, Monkey do.
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BackFoot Master
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Posted: 20 September 2007 at 11:02pm |
Ramp may be better than giles but who cares Giles hit a very very Important 50 at the Oval to save the match and give england the ashes. Thats more important for english fans than what Ramp has done.
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