Would any one want help with spin?

I always found it easier to get side spin especially on non responsive surfaces by making it go up and drop down instead of flatter which will make it mostly skid instead of grip although on turning pitches, flat ones should bite wickedly.

Can I have a bit of help?
If you've looked at the Introductions page I bowl leg break googly,off break and medium pace.
I can bowl topies,stock balls,googlys,flippers and no spinners but I can't seem to get them to flatten I can only toss them up if I try to get them flat they go wide of the pitch and only end up as an extra,does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
this is my leg spin by the way I am really good at off spin I can even bowl a doosra without bending my arm.

Edited by bladescape - 16 June 2008 at 2:59am

Thanks!
I can bowl flatter now I realised I was dragging my arm across I then ajusted my action but I still has a slight loop to it, mabye it's just how I bowl?
Though my flipper is a lot flatter than any other delivery,then again that would be expected.

I can bowl fast enough to get a bit of late swing with my pace!
I don't actually use leg spin in matches though because it was not flat enough and I got slogged a lot now I can bowl it flatter I think I may try it out next match!

when bowling the googly follow thru with your arm like bowling an inswinger not across your body but going down in  a straight line

You have to drop your front shoulder quicker than the other deliveries to bowl a better googly.

 Hey, haven't been on here in ages. Nice to see this thread alive still. Who decided they hated me in my absence!

It's well known that it's harder for offies to generate big turn like wrist spinners.  I know what you're saying TCA, the over spinners do rush on quicker indeed although not with more spin for me as I'm a leggy.  My side spinners seam don't exactly be this = position but somewhere close to that and when I use that and bowl it slow and rev it up, it does spin big.  I've done it bowling flatter too although I haven't tried it much but one of my biggest turner was a flatter and fast one!

Edited by spin wizard - 04 July 2008 at 12:00am

As Shane Warne said TCA, you can a lot of deliveries out of your stock ball so too many variations aint really it all.  Just vary the seam position and you get different degrees of turn then you can always slip in the odd top spinner and arm ball.

You've got success, why change? If the Leggie isn't bringing as much success, no need to change.

If you're talking about the world of work, fine but with cricket, whatever you're most sucessful at, do it!

I'm not sure I can help with the googly,but other veriations I use when doing leg breaks are:
Flipper.
Toppie.
Flipper it took me a long time to get right so don't get annoyed and don't use it in matches till you get it right otherwise the batsman could cash in on it.(I think this one was the Flipper! )
I bowl it by gripping it like I would bowl a normal legbreak and on release I instead slip it out the front of my hand and flick it over faster to allow it a bit more speed as well as over spin,Hope that works for you.
The Toppie I do the other way,I do the same thing except when I release it instead I flick it out the back of my hand that will make it bounce more(I got a good length Toppie to almost take off a batsmans head! That was how much spin I can get!)

ummm NEVER sacrifice spin for pushing the ball through, Spin is a a precious gift it may be lost for every. I dont know much about offspin i tried it but i cant turn it at all, I am a leg spinner who flights it alot and i get alot of turn, I never push the ball through as it effects my rythym. A spinner should always spin the ball. Pushing the ball may be a variation. But your stock ball must be a big ripper. Watch Monty's deliveries closely. He bowls 5 normal spinning balls then he pushes one through. My advice is to you is to keep bowling offspin and just try to toss the ball up and spin it as hard as you can. As a legspinner i feel pain in my third finger so you shud feel some sort of pressure on your first finger. And once u got the spin going develop that pushing thru delivery, Also its the taller spinners that push it thru, Smaller spinners always and i mean always spin it above the batsmen eyelines.

Nothing bad with flighting the ball RichH but it's good to be able to push them through - for example when a batsman is very rampant.  Anyhow, If you can't do that, don't bother with that.  Just variate your deliveries like loop one, a bit less flight next one and change the pace up cause if you bowl the same pace all the time you'll get to predictable.  Try and develop an arm ball and that could be used as your quicker ball.

All useful stuff ta...do hear this kind of thing on the telly too and know it's true to an extent, but as those in the uk know we tend to play on slow pitches anyway and for me it can be a bit frustrating when someone massive [like my younger brother in the nets!] doesnt even allow the thing to pitch anyway